Thread: sugar Ray Leonard would have KOed Floyd Jr.

Originally Posted by bradlee180

Ray Leonard was just an all around better fighter.

Other than punching power, what did Ray Leonard do better than Floyd? lol

I can't believe the shit some of you guys are getting on with.

Floyd can't handle pressure?

Floyd can't handle speed?

What the fuck?

Originally Posted by ykdadamaja

In a 15 rounder Floyd would have retired.... by round 12 or 13....

Floyd hates guys that have high punch volumes... Floyd can't handle pressure... continual pressure. Take a look at the Emanuel Agustus fight, and you would see WHY Floyd said it was his toughest fight and WHY Castilo gave him problems in the first fight and WHY he will NEVER fight Manny Pacqioua.

In fact, the other Sugar, Sugar Shane Mosely, if he had fought Shane when Shane was at his peak, Shane would have knocked him spark out... it would have been a massacre.

Round and round in circles all the time..

Shane ducked floyd as he had a toothache (video on youtube)

Floyd owns all versions of shane inc post steroid.

Floyd has never been beaten and had a torn muscle in the 1st castillo fight so to prove there wasnt any doubts rematched him and put on a clinic.

He doesnt run away from rematches and showed the world what a fully fit floyd does the second time round.

As for the crap about 15 rounds, floyd gets into his prime around the 9th round and he never looks tired.

Just accept he is the greatest and only a prime roy jones at his weight would possibly dethrone him..

Mosely in his prime was a finisher... plus had more energy and more power... and early Mosley stops Floyd.

Sugar Ray Leonard was one of the greatest welterweights ever, maybe Robinson was better. Floyd does not belong in that bracket as champions at that weight. He is at best tier 2 of the greats along with Oscar, Tito and maybe Whitaker.

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Originally Posted by bradlee180

Ray Leonard was just an all around better fighter.

Other than punching power, what did Ray Leonard do better than Floyd? lol

I can't believe the shit some of you guys are getting on with.

Floyd can't handle pressure?

Floyd can't handle speed?

What the fuck?

faster hands and better combinations. floyd has quick hands but leonards hands were lightning fast. ive never seen floyd throw as fast as i have seen leonard throw. also, leonard has great combinations that are nearly unmatched in all of boxing history.

their footwork is probably about even along with their chin and conditioning. as mentioned before, i wouldnt say that leonard is on a completely different level than floyd, but stylistically, leonard wins fairly easy.

Floyd isn't a natural WW so perhaps its unfair to compare them.

No one past or present beats floyd at 147

Floyd owns 140-147 until someone beats him.

Originally Posted by imp

Originally Posted by bradlee180

Anyone that has seen the prime Sugar Ray Leonard knows Ray wins that one.

Ray Leonard was just an all around better fighter.

Yeah, ask duran that in the first fight..

Duran's one of the Greatest fighters in history.
I don't see the point you're trying to make.

Duran, a natural lightweight 135 (same day weigh-ins back then) decided to go up to Welter 147 and fight one of the Greatest Welterweights there's ever been.

floyd is not the greatest at 140-147---the fllowing would beat him---

aaron pryor
roberto duran
sugar ray robinson
sugar ray leonard
hell even a prime oscar de la hoya beats floyd at 147.

Originally Posted by powerpuncher

faster hands and better combinations. floyd has quick hands but leonards hands were lightning fast.

I refuse to believe that somebody actually thinks SRR had faster hands and better combinations than Floyd Mayweather.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you're used to seeing modern Mayweather and haven't seen his older fights in quite some time.

For your own sake, please go back and watch Floyd from 10 years ago.

To be fair to SRL, Floyd was also the smaller man, so it's not that impressive that he was faster than SRL.

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

floyd is not the greatest at 140-147---the fllowing would beat him---

aaron pryor
roberto duran
sugar ray robinson
sugar ray leonard
hell even a prime oscar de la hoya beats floyd at 147.

Lol yea in your opinion. These threads are pointless

Originally Posted by g3org3

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

floyd is not the greatest at 140-147---the fllowing would beat him---

aaron pryor
roberto duran
sugar ray robinson
sugar ray leonard
hell even a prime oscar de la hoya beats floyd at 147.

Lol yea in your opinion. These threads are pointless

Obviously it is his own opinion!
Add to the list Hearns, and possibly Curry, Tito, Honeygan,

SRL wipes the floor with Floyd, don't kid yourselves in the 80's Mayweather would be nothing
special, I could see him being KO by about 4 or 5 fighters.
Hearns would put Floyd in by by land, McCallum would have beat the shit out of him, remember
the best facing the best that's the 80's.

Floyd deserves credit for his most recent opponents since 2011 because they are good young top fighters, but his cherry-picking circa 2002-2010 was basically ridiculous.
In all my decades as a fan of this sport, I've NEVER seen ducking and cherry-picking taken to that level... and the Boxing establishment and fans allowed him to get away with it! Hatton is the sole top prime fighter Floyd stepped in with in those 8 years.

At Welterweight since 2005, I don't think Floyd was even the best in that one weight class in his own era let alone All-Time!

Paul Williams would have taken him as would Margarito, and I think Pacquiao too when he went to Welter in 2009. And Floyd wasn't interested in fighting Shane circa 2005-2008 when Shane was still good and in the Top 3, nah, Floyd waited till 2010 when Shane was 38 years old.

Even Joshua Clottey or Andre Berto would've been a step up for Floyd instead of spending his prime years 2005-2010 calling up little guys, boxing 2nd tier opponents instead of 1st tier, and guys that were past their prime.

Floyd is a defensive boxing master, perhaps the most technically skilled guy in Boxing right now, but it's too bad that he didn't have half the faith in his own abilities that his crazed fans did.

Recently, he's been fighting top young prime guys, a generation younger in fact, and deserves credit for that. And the dude has kept himself in razor-sharp condition all these years, that's dedication. Maybe he decided that legacy really does mean something to him instead of just the money because at this point, you have to go all the way back to the 2001 Corrales match for a signature fight for this guy. Other than that, where's the classic fights that's worth rewatching where the best fought the best?