Thread: I feel weight classes should be changed!

Don't you have a problem with all of these weight divisions? And guys consistently not making weight?

We have too many to serve and useful purpose. JMO...
Mini Flyweight (IBF/WBO)
Mini Flyweight (IBF/WBO)
Strawweight (WBC)
Minimumweight (WBA) 7½ st 47,627 kg 105 lbs
Junior Flyweight (WBO/IBF)
Light Flyweight (WBA/WBC) 7st 10 lbs 48,988 kg 108 lbs
Flyweight 8 st 50,802 kg 112 lbs
Super Flyweight (WBA/WBC)
Junior Bantamweight (WBO/IBF) 8 st 3 lbs 52,163 kg 115 lbs
Bantamweight 8 st 6 lbs 53,525 kg 118 lbs
Super Bantamweight (WBA/WBC)
Junior Featherweight (WBO/IBF) 8 st 10 lbs 55,225 kg 122 lbs
Featherweight 9 st 57,153 kg 126 lbs
Super Featherweight (WBA/WBC)
Junior Lightweight (WBO/IBF) 9 st 4 lbs 58,967 kg 130 lbs
Lightweight 9 st 9 lbs 61,235 kg 135 lbs
Super Lightweight (WBA/WBC)
Junior Welterweight (WBO/IBF) 10 st 63,503 kg 140 lbs
Welterweight 10½ st 66,678 kg 147 lbs
Super Welterweight (WBA/WBC)
Junior Middleweight (WBO/IBF) 11 st 69,85 kg 154 lbs
Middleweight 11 st 6 lbs 72,574 kg 160 lbs
Super Middleweight 12 st 76,203 kg 168 lbs
Light Heavyweight 12½ st 79,378 kg 175 lbs
Cruiserweight (WBA/WBC/IBF)
Junior Heavyweight (WBO) 14 st 4 lbs 90,892 kg 200 lbs
Heavyweight > 14 st 4 lbs > 90,892 kg > 200 lbs

My weight class:

I'd take out the Straw and Minimum and start at Flyweight at 110 lbs

I'd also take out Junior Feather, Junior Welter and Jr Middle...

Keep Super Middle at 168 to 175

Combine Cruiser and LH at 180 to 195/200...

Weight classes are there for a reason to protect fighters and minimize the unfair advantage.

Canelo never made weight by a pound but the extra 100k is sure to make angulo happy.

I've always wondered if introducing a 'Super Heavyweight' divison could help make the higher weight classes a bit more competetive.

Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24

I've always wondered if introducing a 'Super Heavyweight' divison could help make the higher weight classes a bit more competetive.

The heavyweight division is iconic so they would never do that. They should lift the cruisierweight limit.

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24

I've always wondered if introducing a 'Super Heavyweight' divison could help make the higher weight classes a bit more competetive.

The heavyweight division is iconic so they would never do that. They should lift the cruisierweight limit.

Sure nothing would be done, I think its just worth the debate considering the size of the new breed of heavyweight.

Traditional 8.

Originally Posted by imp

Weight classes are there for a reason to protect fighters and minimize the unfair advantage.

Canelo never made weight by a pound but the extra 100k is sure to make angulo happy.

There is little to no difference between the minimum weights to flyweight... some are only by three of four pounds. Useless.

Some of these "Jr." titles- Welter, Feather, etc... can be deduced in simpler form.

The cruiser weight division can easily be combined with the LH....

the weight divisions HAVE all changed ..... Huge advances in diet, training and nutrition as well as the changes to weigh in times mean that the fighters competing in each division are generally much bigger than the guys from the past.

Does anyone really think that Sergio Martinez is the same size as Carmen Basilio, for example?

Originally Posted by X

the weight divisions HAVE all changed ..... Huge advances in diet, training and nutrition as well as the changes to weigh in times mean that the fighters competing in each division are generally much bigger than the guys from the past.

Does anyone really think that Sergio Martinez is the same size as Carmen Basilio, for example?

That could be more to do with not having same day weigh in than nutrition.

Originally Posted by X

the weight divisions HAVE all changed ..... Huge advances in diet, training and nutrition as well as the changes to weigh in times mean that the fighters competing in each division are generally much bigger than the guys from the past.

Does anyone really think that Sergio Martinez is the same size as Carmen Basilio, for example?

Exactly my point.... the average middle weight today has better formed muscles, more attention to his diet and different lifestyle habits.

The entire game changed in the mid-80's- not because of the changes in the day you weigh the men, but the way we changed as a human race- physiology wise.

If you went back to the same day weigh in you would have NO FIGHTS.... no one would make weight.

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by X

the weight divisions HAVE all changed ..... Huge advances in diet, training and nutrition as well as the changes to weigh in times mean that the fighters competing in each division are generally much bigger than the guys from the past.

Does anyone really think that Sergio Martinez is the same size as Carmen Basilio, for example?

That could be more to do with not having same day weigh in than nutrition.

... and the main reason why they changed same day weigh in was because of health concerns and fighters weight draining, that and "time"... so, what exactly do we want?!!?

Basillio was built like a truck how can you say he was not well defined?

Originally Posted by Master

Basillio was built like a truck how can you say he was not well defined?

There is a difference between looking in shape, being in shape, being well defined, and having the strength and conditioning at a certain weight.

Basillio had a great physique. Meaning he was well defined and had conditioning to a certain degree. But when we compare him to a today's MW- from Hopkins, to RJJ, to GGG to even Ward and Dirrell, he would not last because he would be fighting unusually stronger and conditioned athletes.

It's not the same....

Originally Posted by ykdadamaja

Originally Posted by Master

Basillio was built like a truck how can you say he was not well defined?

There is a difference between looking in shape, being in shape, being well defined, and having the strength and conditioning at a certain weight.

Basillio had a great physique. Meaning he was well defined and had conditioning to a certain degree. But when we compare him to a today's MW- from Hopkins, to RJJ, to GGG to even Ward and Dirrell, he would not last because he would be fighting unusually stronger and conditioned athletes.

It's not the same....

Disagree. Obviously Hopkins and Jones are greats but Bassilio was built like Abraham's. Talent is one think, physique is another.