Thread: Andre Ward will never be popular or an ATG

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Poppycock.

Froch would catch cal-soggy.

Late ko.

As usual for carl.

Remind me how many times Joe Calzaghe has been knocked out? How many times has Froch been out boxed?

calzaghe has never been knocked out.

froch has been outboxed 2, maybe 3 times.

so what? Froch can cathc up and knock Joe out, about round 9 or 10. Are you saying its impossible?

In Boxing anything is possible but it is highly improbable.

Remember Joe beat Roy.

Cyclone why are you such a troll with Calzaghe i mean such hate for the man did he fuck your mom or something every thread don't get it. I mean the guy beat Kessler, bika, Lacy and Hopkins who still winning and also had 20 defenses with being the man at smw and lhw retired undefeated as well.

Oh wait i got it you shit one Wald and Calzaghe but do nothing but praise Ward and Mayweather. I wonder what Wald and Cazlaghe have in common that you hate there so different but oh wait there white thats got to be it. Sorry if hate white people i guess i not sure what else it could be about it.

Originally Posted by Mr140

Oh wait i got it you shit one Wald and Calzaghe but do nothing but praise Ward and Mayweather. I wonder what Wald and Cazlaghe have in common that you hate there so different but oh wait there white thats got to be it. Sorry if hate white people i guess i not sure what else it could be about it.

Oh stop crying.

Compared to Ward and Mayweather,

Vlad and Calzhage ARE shit...as you well know.

If Vlad and Joke were Black you'd be rolling across the floor laughing at that trash.

We're not hard-up for hero's like ya'll are...we don't have to prop up any and everything that oozes between the ropes for lack of quality fighters.

The bar is set much higher in the US.

Look at all Mayweather has done and he still gets stick...compare his career to Joe's if you want a good laugh.

Floyd's career is better than Joe and Vlad's combined...same with his skills.

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by Mr140

Oh wait i got it you shit one Wald and Calzaghe but do nothing but praise Ward and Mayweather. I wonder what Wald and Cazlaghe have in common that you hate there so different but oh wait there white thats got to be it. Sorry if hate white people i guess i not sure what else it could be about it.

Oh stop crying.

Compared to Ward and Mayweather,

Vlad and Calzhage ARE shit...as you well know.

If Vlad and Joke were Black you'd be rolling across the floor laughing at that trash.

We're not hard-up for hero's like ya'll are...we don't have to prop up any and everything that oozes between the ropes for lack of quality fighters.

The bar is set much higher in the US.

Look at all Mayweather has done and he still gets stick...compare his career to Joe's if you want a good laugh.

Floyd's career is better than Joe and Vlad's combined...same with his skills.

Shows what I know. I thought Ward was white and I still dont like him. Hes a great boxer but dont enjoy his style.

Originally Posted by Mr140

Cyclone why are you such a troll with Calzaghe i mean such hate for the man did he fuck your mom or something every thread don't get it. I mean the guy beat Kessler, bika, Lacy and Hopkins who still winning and also had 20 defenses with being the man at smw and lhw retired undefeated as well.

Jermain Taylor beat Hopkins before Joe did.

Big deal.

All Calzhage had to do was go to the states and fight Hopking in 01 instead of foolishly expecting Hopkins to drop everything and fight him in Whales.

Hop was riding high off beating Tito...Joe was fresh off his sintilating victory over the dreaded TOKKER PUDWELL.

He could have EASILLY fought RJJ in his prime but ADMITTED he stood 0 chance.
James Toney was around too..but Joe wasn't.

Who did Kessler and Bika beat to be so highly praised

Sven Ottke fought and beat Glenn Johnson..

Joe SHAMELESSLY ducked him...Jim Lampley said it on the air and he's a Joe ball-washer.

Joe played it safe.... even the refs playing it safe for him by jumping in to stop fights for no reason.

Mayweather would have a 99% KO record if he had refs jump in to stop fights just because he was swinging at the air.

Name ONE american fighter that could get away with fighting the LOSER of an elimination bout.
Name ONE american fighter that has refs jump to stop fights for nothing.
Name ONE american fighter that slaps at the air like a spastic monkey yet is considered an ATG.
Name ONE american fighter that can hide behind the weakest belt and duck the best comp without being roundly critisized.

American fighters are held to a higher standard for a reason.

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by Mr140

Oh wait i got it you shit one Wald and Calzaghe but do nothing but praise Ward and Mayweather. I wonder what Wald and Cazlaghe have in common that you hate there so different but oh wait there white thats got to be it. Sorry if hate white people i guess i not sure what else it could be about it.

Oh stop crying.

Compared to Ward and Mayweather,

Vlad and Calzhage ARE shit...as you well know.

If Vlad and Joke were Black you'd be rolling across the floor laughing at that trash.

We're not hard-up for hero's like ya'll are...we don't have to prop up any and everything that oozes between the ropes for lack of quality fighters.

The bar is set much higher in the US.

Look at all Mayweather has done and he still gets stick...compare his career to Joe's if you want a good laugh.

Floyd's career is better than Joe and Vlad's combined...same with his skills.

Shows what I know. I thought Ward was white and I still dont like him. Hes a great boxer but dont enjoy his style.

I'd rather watch Ward than Joe Calzhage..

So would you.

Hell I'd rather watch Sven Ottke than The Welsh Rabbit.

Ottke laid Mundine out COLD.

Joe never score a flat out KO.

Kessler couldn't stop Mundine and he's supposed to be all that.

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by Mr140

Cyclone why are you such a troll with Calzaghe i mean such hate for the man did he fuck your mom or something every thread don't get it. I mean the guy beat Kessler, bika, Lacy and Hopkins who still winning and also had 20 defenses with being the man at smw and lhw retired undefeated as well.

Jermain Taylor beat Hopkins before Joe did.

Big deal.

All Calzhage had to do was go to the states and fight Hopking in 01 instead of foolishly expecting Hopkins to drop everything and fight him in Whales.

Hop was riding high off beating Tito...Joe was fresh off his sintilating victory over the dreaded TOKKER PUDWELL.

He could have EASILLY fought RJJ in his prime but ADMITTED he stood 0 chance.
James Toney was around too..but Joe wasn't.

Who did Kessler and Bika beat to be so highly praised

Sven Ottke fought and beat Glenn Johnson..

Joe SHAMELESSLY ducked him...Jim Lampley said it on the air and he's a Joe ball-washer.

Joe played it safe.... even the refs playing it safe for him by jumping in to stop fights for no reason.

Mayweather would have a 99% KO record if he had refs jump in to stop fights just because he was swinging at the air.

Name ONE american fighter that could get away with fighting the LOSER of an elimination bout.
Name ONE american fighter that has refs jump to stop fights for nothing.
Name ONE american fighter that slaps at the air like a spastic monkey yet is considered an ATG.
Name ONE american fighter that can hide behind the weakest belt and duck the best comp without being roundly critisized.

American fighters are held to a higher standard for a reason.

How about Mayweather fighting Judah on the back of his loss to Baldomir?

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by Mr140

Oh wait i got it you shit one Wald and Calzaghe but do nothing but praise Ward and Mayweather. I wonder what Wald and Cazlaghe have in common that you hate there so different but oh wait there white thats got to be it. Sorry if hate white people i guess i not sure what else it could be about it.

Oh stop crying.

Compared to Ward and Mayweather,

Vlad and Calzhage ARE shit...as you well know.

If Vlad and Joke were Black you'd be rolling across the floor laughing at that trash.

We're not hard-up for hero's like ya'll are...we don't have to prop up any and everything that oozes between the ropes for lack of quality fighters.

The bar is set much higher in the US.

Look at all Mayweather has done and he still gets stick...compare his career to Joe's if you want a good laugh.

Floyd's career is better than Joe and Vlad's combined...same with his skills.

Shows what I know. I thought Ward was white and I still dont like him. Hes a great boxer but dont enjoy his style.

I'd rather watch Ward than Joe Calzhage..

So would you.

Hell I'd rather watch Sven Ottke than The Welsh Rabbit.

Ottke laid Mundine out COLD.

Joe never score a flat out KO.

Kessler couldn't stop Mundine and he's supposed to be all that.

Im not keen on either to be honest. I much prefer to watch Bika fight, but that doesnt make him better.

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by Mr140

Oh wait i got it you shit one Wald and Calzaghe but do nothing but praise Ward and Mayweather. I wonder what Wald and Cazlaghe have in common that you hate there so different but oh wait there white thats got to be it. Sorry if hate white people i guess i not sure what else it could be about it.

Oh stop crying.

Compared to Ward and Mayweather,

Vlad and Calzhage ARE shit...as you well know.

If Vlad and Joke were Black you'd be rolling across the floor laughing at that trash.

We're not hard-up for hero's like ya'll are...we don't have to prop up any and everything that oozes between the ropes for lack of quality fighters.

The bar is set much higher in the US.

Look at all Mayweather has done and he still gets stick...compare his career to Joe's if you want a good laugh.

Floyd's career is better than Joe and Vlad's combined...same with his skills.

Shows what I know. I thought Ward was white and I still dont like him. Hes a great boxer but dont enjoy his style.

I'd rather watch Ward than Joe Calzhage..

So would you.

Hell I'd rather watch Sven Ottke than The Welsh Rabbit.

Ottke laid Mundine out COLD.

Joe never score a flat out KO.

Kessler couldn't stop Mundine and he's supposed to be all that.

Ottke was feather fisted and it was a freak shot that knocked out Mundine. Ottke never did it again.

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by Mr140

Oh wait i got it you shit one Wald and Calzaghe but do nothing but praise Ward and Mayweather. I wonder what Wald and Cazlaghe have in common that you hate there so different but oh wait there white thats got to be it. Sorry if hate white people i guess i not sure what else it could be about it.

Oh stop crying.

Compared to Ward and Mayweather,

Vlad and Calzhage ARE shit...as you well know.

If Vlad and Joke were Black you'd be rolling across the floor laughing at that trash.

We're not hard-up for hero's like ya'll are...we don't have to prop up any and everything that oozes between the ropes for lack of quality fighters.

The bar is set much higher in the US.

Look at all Mayweather has done and he still gets stick...compare his career to Joe's if you want a good laugh.

Floyd's career is better than Joe and Vlad's combined...same with his skills.

Shows what I know. I thought Ward was white and I still dont like him. Hes a great boxer but dont enjoy his style.

I'd rather watch Ward than Joe Calzhage..

So would you.

Hell I'd rather watch Sven Ottke than The Welsh Rabbit.

Ottke laid Mundine out COLD.

Joe never score a flat out KO.

Kessler couldn't stop Mundine and he's supposed to be all that.

Ottke was feather fisted and it was a freak shot that knocked out Mundine. Ottke never did it again.

And he needed the ref to stop Robin Reid from beating him. Reid even put Ottke on his arse, the only boxer to do so.

There is some serious pretzel logic going on here. I'd say the same person that dismisses Cal but sits on the Ward wagon would also call Hopkins an atg had he retired after his middleweight run. Never mind the fact that Cals run at 168 is far better then Hops at 160.

You cant debate with that kind of stupid.

It is ok if you don't like white people Cyclone it is your right now to i am just saying it is kinda lame. My favorite fighter all time is Evander Holyfeild so no if they were black fighters i would not down them. All your post diss white fighters i think it is kinda a waste of your time really that is all.

Also Cyclone i was born in fucking cali i live in god damn oceanside for fuck sack. I am american who can appreciate fighters from other cultures and still be ok with US not being as great as we once were. I mean been while since Holyfeild was the champ i don't like Wald either but he wins dude.

Ward should challenge himself and break records, instead of making money. He can make money in the long run if he works at breaking records- most title defences and most consecutive wins.