Thread: What do they do with Joshua now?

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

If they want Joshua to go some rounds Audley is the obvious choice. I'd love to see it just to see Audley's face on the ringwalk.

Yeah, cos he gave Deontay Wilder lots of rounds didn't he?

I think Audley gives Joshua a tough fight. It could be a close one on the cards.

EDIT: Bugger, somebody noticed.

Joshua should just keep fighting at this stage. He is clearly not a bottom 40 fighter. And while he may be able to handle a top 20 guy, we have to remember that he is young and he can do with a little more technical training just to be true to the sport and do himself justice as a real quality fighter.

By next year, end of next year, Joshua should be ranked in the top 20. Maybe even the top 15 even without fighting top tier guys.

After Johnson he should aim high. Adamek, Scott or Charr would all be decent and no doubt hed make mince meat of them, Christian Hammer is another he would beat very easily and has a high ranking. Id target them. No point of him fighting guys hes gonna blast un one or two rounds.

Just watched an interview with Sprott and although he got stopped early, he didnt seem that amazed by Joshuas power. When asked about it he said "its nothing like corrie Sanders type power, that is just inhuman"

Originally Posted by ross

Just watched an interview with Sprott and although he got stopped early, he didnt seem that amazed by Joshuas power. When asked about it he said "its nothing like corrie Sanders type power, that is just inhuman"

Wlad would agree.

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by ross

Just watched an interview with Sprott and although he got stopped early, he didnt seem that amazed by Joshuas power. When asked about it he said "its nothing like corrie Sanders type power, that is just inhuman"

Wlad would agree.

indeed he was not amazed with his "power"---could it be overrated power?

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by ross

Just watched an interview with Sprott and although he got stopped early, he didnt seem that amazed by Joshuas power. When asked about it he said "its nothing like corrie Sanders type power, that is just inhuman"

Wlad would agree.

indeed he was not amazed with his "power"---could it be overrated power?

He overwhelmed Sprott more than hurt him. Plenty of others have hurt and dropped Sprott.

This is the danger with moving him up too quick against someone who can last 12. I think Joshua has fallen in love with his power and with a big crowd at some point he will try and open up. If he fails to stop the opponent, Johnson or whoever and there is still a good portion of the fight left, will he have anything left in the tank? His body type doesn't scream stamina.

Originally Posted by jon09

He has a perfect opponent in Johnson coming up. He has a concrete chin and has never been knocked out even against the heavy hitters. After that he should fight Chisora.

Chisora floored Johnson, and Chisora isn't a huge hitter.

I think Joshua will stop him mid to late.

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by ross

Just watched an interview with Sprott and although he got stopped early, he didnt seem that amazed by Joshuas power. When asked about it he said "its nothing like corrie Sanders type power, that is just inhuman"

Wlad would agree.

indeed he was not amazed with his "power"---could it be overrated power?

It's clear Joshua does NOT have bone-crushing Tyson, Tua, Wilder OR Sanders power. But what he has is tremendous agility and throws punches in bunches, which is odd for a heavyweight. Did you see how he riddled off a about 20 plus unanswered shots in rapid speed in under 10 seconds.

Which heavyweight does that?

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by ross

Just watched an interview with Sprott and although he got stopped early, he didnt seem that amazed by Joshuas power. When asked about it he said "its nothing like corrie Sanders type power, that is just inhuman"

Wlad would agree.

indeed he was not amazed with his "power"---could it be overrated power?

He overwhelmed Sprott more than hurt him. Plenty of others have hurt and dropped Sprott.

This is the danger with moving him up too quick against someone who can last 12. I think Joshua has fallen in love with his power and with a big crowd at some point he will try and open up. If he fails to stop the opponent, Johnson or whoever and there is still a good portion of the fight left, will he have anything left in the tank? His body type doesn't scream stamina.

That would be the concern.
Ideally he needs to just fight an iron chin with no power or work rate.

Originally Posted by ryanman

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by ross

Just watched an interview with Sprott and although he got stopped early, he didnt seem that amazed by Joshuas power. When asked about it he said "its nothing like corrie Sanders type power, that is just inhuman"

Wlad would agree.

indeed he was not amazed with his "power"---could it be overrated power?

He overwhelmed Sprott more than hurt him. Plenty of others have hurt and dropped Sprott.

This is the danger with moving him up too quick against someone who can last 12. I think Joshua has fallen in love with his power and with a big crowd at some point he will try and open up. If he fails to stop the opponent, Johnson or whoever and there is still a good portion of the fight left, will he have anything left in the tank? His body type doesn't scream stamina.

That would be the concern.
Ideally he needs to just fight an iron chin with no power or work rate.

The more I think about it the more of a gamble Johnson is. He's being given plenty of preparation time as well. He will probably just let himself down again but he definitely has the potential to turn Joshua on his head.

Iron chin?

No, id go for a tough scrapper that makes everyone work but does get hurt. Even if he doesn't go many rounds, he needs to be put under some kind of pressure. Go for Minto, Gavern, Sherman Williams, do it in quicker succession if they don't last long. He just needs some tough fighting men with some life left in them.

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by ryanman

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by ross

Just watched an interview with Sprott and although he got stopped early, he didnt seem that amazed by Joshuas power. When asked about it he said "its nothing like corrie Sanders type power, that is just inhuman"

Wlad would agree.

indeed he was not amazed with his "power"---could it be overrated power?

He overwhelmed Sprott more than hurt him. Plenty of others have hurt and dropped Sprott.

This is the danger with moving him up too quick against someone who can last 12. I think Joshua has fallen in love with his power and with a big crowd at some point he will try and open up. If he fails to stop the opponent, Johnson or whoever and there is still a good portion of the fight left, will he have anything left in the tank? His body type doesn't scream stamina.

That would be the concern.
Ideally he needs to just fight an iron chin with no power or work rate.

The more I think about it the more of a gamble Johnson is. He's being given plenty of preparation time as well. He will probably just let himself down again but he definitely has the potential to turn Joshua on his head.

Iron chin?

No, id go for a tough scrapper that makes everyone work but does get hurt. Even if he doesn't go many rounds, he needs to be put under some kind of pressure. Go for Minto, Gavern, Sherman Williams, do it in quicker succession if they don't last long. He just needs some tough fighting men with some life left in them.

Yeah maybe not Iron, Tin maybe. I just think it might need to be pretty iron-like to go a few rounds with his power and output.
You want to test his stamina without a real risk coming back. So a really solid guy with little power and poor work rate.

Nobody will learn anything about Joshua if he's beating up big punchbags that come to survive a few rounds. He's already way past that level. These tough guys can't live with him. Johnson is perfect to see if someone can take him a few rounds at this stage. I have no doubt he'll stop Johnson (force him to quit).

Then he should fight Eddie Chambers, Lucas Browne, Andy Ruiz jr or Dillian Whyte. (letsgochamp!)

Originally Posted by Fenster

Nobody will learn anything about Joshua if he's beating up big punchbags that come to survive a few rounds. He's already way past that level. These tough guys can't live with him. Johnson is perfect to see if someone can take him a few rounds at this stage. I have no doubt he'll stop Johnson (force him to quit).

Then he should fight Eddie Chambers, Lucas Browne, Andy Ruiz jr or Dillian Whyte. (letsgochamp!)

he DEF will stop Johnson inside 5 rounds with body punches and pressure.

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Originally Posted by Fenster

Nobody will learn anything about Joshua if he's beating up big punchbags that come to survive a few rounds. He's already way past that level. These tough guys can't live with him. Johnson is perfect to see if someone can take him a few rounds at this stage. I have no doubt he'll stop Johnson (force him to quit).

Then he should fight Eddie Chambers, Lucas Browne, Andy Ruiz jr or Dillian Whyte. (letsgochamp!)

he DEF will stop Johnson inside 5 rounds with body punches and pressure.

Johnson maybe lazy and not try to win but he is still tough and Joshua hasn't yet done a full 3 rounds. I don't know if its just his size that I'm not completely sold on him, as in he's that big and with that comp thats what he should do. Iv seen little tiny snippets similar to what I saw with Price fighting Sexton. Where they pile it on but its a shock where they, rather than dealing with the tiny bit of resilience with composure just stutter and pause for a moment, not quite panic but it knocks them out of their stride. Johnson, IF he comes in true to recent form will be a safe pick and give Joshua some safe rounds.

However. If Johnson comes in realising maybe if he loses to a novice its time to go home and get a job and instead knuckles down and sets a plan of pouring it on Joshua then this could be a ridiculous gamble.

Hearn is basing Johnson as an opponent on his recent losses, not his actual capability. Just like Maloney did with Thompson for Price.