Thread: Joshua and Haye both agree that they will fight each other!

Originally Posted by Batman

AJ has said that he wants Del Boy in his next fight and he isn't ready for Haye or Fury yet.
He speaks sense, he knows that he still has a hell of a lot of work to do its just a question of weather his managers/promotors want to give him the time.

Going back to the Whyte fight last night did anyone else pick up on the question when they asked him if he had put the bad blood with whyte behind him and he replied something like 'No, not at all, not a chance' it's unusual to hear that after a fight, just look at Chisora and Haye after their fight, they left all the bad feelings in the ring.

I think AJ and Whyte will face one another again and will never be on each others Christmas card list.

I think another fight against Whyte would be of more benefit than Chisora for him, I still think its difficult to guage his current level after that win purely because I don't know how good Whyte is, I've only seen him on his 2 recent Sky fights.

Some people here seem to be more aware of Whyte than I am, did people know about him before his ban or did they just look him up when Sky started hyping the grudge match?

Kind of going off topic I know

Originally Posted by Batman

I think another fight against Whyte would be of more benefit than Chisora for him, I still think its difficult to guage his current level after that win purely because I don't know how good Whyte is, I've only seen him on his 2 recent Sky fights.

Some people here seem to be more aware of Whyte than I am, did people know about him before his ban or did they just look him up when Sky started hyping the grudge match?

Kind of going off topic I know

Agree completely. Chisora is actually a step back. I think he fights Whyte differently a second time and shows a different dimension and Whytes earned another decent payday.. I think Anthony let some of the shit talk get to him and made it a little tougher for himself then he should/could have.

There's not gonna be a rematch. That was just AJ giving it to Whyte afterwards, rubbing it in that he ironed him. You don't get a rematch when the "hero" leaves you flattened unconcious

Originally Posted by Fenster

There's not gonna be a rematch. That was just AJ giving it to Whyte afterwards, rubbing it in that he ironed him. You don't get a rematch when the "hero" leaves you flattened unconcious

Klitscko and Lewis did

I dont really see a problem with Haye v AJ as a title eliminator. Haye will have fought and beaten De Mori first who is ranked 10 or so with one of the organisations and AJ is 3 in 2 of them. While I appreciate most people dont like Haye (me included) Id prefer to see him fight Mori and AJ then some of the other jokes in the division. Martin or Glaskov will be champ soon. Id say Haye is better then both and wouldnt give either a chance against Wlad or Fury. I dont see what Martin has done to deserve a title shot and even Glaskov doesnt really deserve a number one ranking. Deontay Wilder is another one who just worked the system to get a shot. He really didnt beat an decent fighter until he won his title.

The best fighters in the division imo are Fury, Wilder, AJ, Povetkin, Ortiz, Pulev, Jennings and Wlad and then you have guys like Haye, Hughie Fury, Glaskov, Teper, Chagaev etc. All I want is to get these guys fighting each other regularly rather then pissing about against puddings and shot opponents. If Haye and AJ fight it should be a decent fight and the winner against Fury should be decent too. In fact fights between all the above fighters should be good fights apart from maybe a few involving Wlad.

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

I dont really see a problem with Haye v AJ as a title eliminator. Haye will have fought and beaten De Mori first who is ranked 10 or so with one of the organisations and AJ is 3 in 2 of them. While I appreciate most people dont like Haye (me included) Id prefer to see him fight Mori and AJ then some of the other jokes in the division. Martin or Glaskov will be champ soon. Id say Haye is better then both and wouldnt give either a chance against Wlad or Fury. I dont see what Martin has done to deserve a title shot and even Glaskov doesnt really deserve a number one ranking. Deontay Wilder is another one who just worked the system to get a shot. He really didnt beat an decent fighter until he won his title.

The best fighters in the division imo are Fury, Wilder, AJ, Povetkin, Ortiz, Pulev, Jennings and Wlad and then you have guys like Haye, Hughie Fury, Glaskov, Teper, Chagaev etc. All I want is to get these guys fighting each other regularly rather then pissing about against puddings and shot opponents. If Haye and AJ fight it should be a decent fight and the winner against Fury should be decent too. In fact fights between all the above fighters should be good fights apart from maybe a few involving Wlad.

You could say the same about Fury couldn't you? Let's be fair and consistent here. The British fighters get more shots at titles than any other nationality. I mean, Chisora got a shot ffs! And Paul Smith even got a rematch because "although he lost, he didn't lose as badly as the Judges said he did!"
Tyson Fury was interviewed exactly about this by Kugan Cassius before he fought Wlad. He said there are "British World Champions", who have titles but aren't no.1 in their division (some nowhere near it.) and then there are "World Champions", who are no.1. I think he might've even said the last "World Champion" Britain had was Hatton or Calzaghe. Tbh, I agree with him 100%.

Yea definitely but have to credit him for targeting the true champ. Wilders aim was pretty clear (well at least his promo team) avoid Wlad at all costs

I don't think they'll be putting Joshua in with Haye anytime soon. Whyte again or Chisora next.

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I don't think they'll be putting Joshua in with Haye anytime soon. Whyte again or Chisora next.

Haye has speed, fast hands and power. AJ needs to tidy up in defence, more head movement and use his height and reach far more. Once he has perfected that he will be unstoppable.

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I don't think they'll be putting Joshua in with Haye anytime soon. Whyte again or Chisora next.

Haye has speed, fast hands and power. AJ needs to tidy up in defence, more head movement and use his height and reach far more. Once he has perfected that he will be unstoppable.

Any would be a start

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I don't think they'll be putting Joshua in with Haye anytime soon. Whyte again or Chisora next.

Haye has speed, fast hands and power. AJ needs to tidy up in defence, more head movement and use his height and reach far more. Once he has perfected that he will be unstoppable.

Any would be a start

True but this is where you learn these things in the hard fights.

Some people just have faults that can't be corrected. Joshua recovered from getting wobbled in the second but he was worryingly Frank Bruno for a while. If somebody his own size or Wilder size can clock him they're going to have an opportunity to put him away.

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Some people just have faults that can't be corrected. Joshua recovered from getting wobbled in the second but he was worryingly Frank Bruno for a while. If somebody his own size or Wilder size can clock him they're going to have an opportunity to put him away.

Bruno was rubber legged, AJ was mildly hurt so I do not think he has a suspect chin at all.

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Some people just have faults that can't be corrected. Joshua recovered from getting wobbled in the second but he was worryingly Frank Bruno for a while. If somebody his own size or Wilder size can clock him they're going to have an opportunity to put him away.

Bruno was rubber legged, AJ was mildly hurt so I do not think he has a suspect chin at all.

Hang on a minute, I don't want to sound like @erics44, but why do people on here talk about Bruno like he was a pile of shit?
He went in with loads of World Champs, had a great Career , rocked Tyson when he was at his peak, gave Lewis the fight of his life, was a World Champion.
If any of this current crop surpass his achievements, they'll have had a very good career. I'm not saying that can't happen, but come on, show a bit of respect.😄