Thread: Absolute Proof Liberalism is a Mental Disorder

Originally Posted by IamInuit

No I'm not ok with that. I'm also not ok with the labeling your country seems to put on everyone. If you are against gun culture you are a liberal or if you believe in health care for all you are a socialist. As if thats a bad thing. No grey in your world. No middle just black and white. When some Americans say exceptionalism they actually believe God himself handed you that antiquated constitution that has no application at all in the real world. The trouble with you card carrying radical righties is that you paint everyone not on side with the same brush. Thats what fascist states do not pluralistic ones.

And no I don't believe Muslims should have a prayer space at the work place or practice Sharia law. That does not make me left or right. It makes me Canadian. The trouble with America is that everything in life is left and right and the physician should heal thyself and quit forcing themselves onto sovereign countries and starting eternal wars. Your countries political philosophy is consumerism and capitalism. All the other shit is window dressing.

IamInuit, do you not understand how absurd it is to call someone who believes in the Constitution a "Fascist"?

The Constitution is a document that tells the people what the Federal Government CANNOT DO.....that's huge, that right there is "power to the people", why more politicians aren't actually held accountable for side stepping the Constitution I don't know, but I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings, the Constitution DOES matter, it IS important, and if you truly believe that it is "antiquated" then I guess you are more of a Fascist than you thought you were.





Also "you card carrying radical righties".....I guess you resolved your feelings about labeling then haven't you?

Originally Posted by Master

That is a no then. You would not respect and accept the law of the land.

Master, it is literally IMPOSSIBLE for that to be the "law of the land" as it is against the law for the Federal or State government to make firearms illegal....again, how is that so difficult to comprehend?

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

That is a no then. You would not respect and accept the law of the land.

Master, it is literally IMPOSSIBLE for that to be the "law of the land" as it is against the law for the Federal or State government to make firearms illegal....again, how is that so difficult to comprehend?

So you government can not restrict gun ownership to its citizens?

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

That is a no then. You would not respect and accept the law of the land.

Master, it is literally IMPOSSIBLE for that to be the "law of the land" as it is against the law for the Federal or State government to make firearms illegal....again, how is that so difficult to comprehend?

So you government can not restrict gun ownership to its citizens?

Certain licenses can be denied, if you're a convicted felon you can't own or even hold a gun. It's not an absolute.....unless you're a law abiding citizen.

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

That is a no then. You would not respect and accept the law of the land.

Master, it is literally IMPOSSIBLE for that to be the "law of the land" as it is against the law for the Federal or State government to make firearms illegal....again, how is that so difficult to comprehend?

So you government can not restrict gun ownership to its citizens?

Certain licenses can be denied, if you're a convicted felon you can't own or even hold a gun. It's not an absolute.....unless you're a law abiding citizen.

What if the government deny its civilians the ownership of guns and only allowed the authorities to have them?

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

That is a no then. You would not respect and accept the law of the land.

Master, it is literally IMPOSSIBLE for that to be the "law of the land" as it is against the law for the Federal or State government to make firearms illegal....again, how is that so difficult to comprehend?

So you government can not restrict gun ownership to its citizens?

Certain licenses can be denied, if you're a convicted felon you can't own or even hold a gun. It's not an absolute.....unless you're a law abiding citizen.

What if the government deny its civilians the ownership of guns and only allowed the authorities to have them?

Since the government is founded on and runs based off of the Constitution it would be unconstitutional for such a law to be passed. That said, if such a law WAS passed then it would be my DUTY as an American citizen to revolt against a tyrannical government.


....is this some kind of novel idea to you? It's fairly simple to me, maybe it's because I grew up with it. Not that I'm some kind of compound having unofficial state militia starting crazy person, just because the Constitution is the rule and guide of government, the Constitution says what the government can't do, and the founding fathers said basically "If the government stops going by the Constitution then it's your job as a citizen to overthrow the government"....that's just the way it is.

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

That is a no then. You would not respect and accept the law of the land.

Master, it is literally IMPOSSIBLE for that to be the "law of the land" as it is against the law for the Federal or State government to make firearms illegal....again, how is that so difficult to comprehend?

So you government can not restrict gun ownership to its citizens?

Certain licenses can be denied, if you're a convicted felon you can't own or even hold a gun. It's not an absolute.....unless you're a law abiding citizen.

What if the government deny its civilians the ownership of guns and only allowed the authorities to have them?

Since the government is founded on and runs based off of the Constitution it would be unconstitutional for such a law to be passed. That said, if such a law WAS passed then it would be my DUTY as an American citizen to revolt against a tyrannical government.


....is this some kind of novel idea to you? It's fairly simple to me, maybe it's because I grew up with it. Not that I'm some kind of compound having unofficial state militia starting crazy person, just because the Constitution is the rule and guide of government, the Constitution says what the government can't do, and the founding fathers said basically "If the government stops going by the Constitution then it's your job as a citizen to overthrow the government"....that's just the way it is.

Just what a freedom fighter/terrorist would say.

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

That is a no then. You would not respect and accept the law of the land.

Master, it is literally IMPOSSIBLE for that to be the "law of the land" as it is against the law for the Federal or State government to make firearms illegal....again, how is that so difficult to comprehend?

So you government can not restrict gun ownership to its citizens?

Certain licenses can be denied, if you're a convicted felon you can't own or even hold a gun. It's not an absolute.....unless you're a law abiding citizen.

What if the government deny its civilians the ownership of guns and only allowed the authorities to have them?

Since the government is founded on and runs based off of the Constitution it would be unconstitutional for such a law to be passed. That said, if such a law WAS passed then it would be my DUTY as an American citizen to revolt against a tyrannical government.


....is this some kind of novel idea to you? It's fairly simple to me, maybe it's because I grew up with it. Not that I'm some kind of compound having unofficial state militia starting crazy person, just because the Constitution is the rule and guide of government, the Constitution says what the government can't do, and the founding fathers said basically "If the government stops going by the Constitution then it's your job as a citizen to overthrow the government"....that's just the way it is.

Just what a freedom fighter/terrorist would say.

Facile argument there Master, I respect you and know you are smarter than that.....but if you care to elaborate be my guest.

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

That is a no then. You would not respect and accept the law of the land.

Master, it is literally IMPOSSIBLE for that to be the "law of the land" as it is against the law for the Federal or State government to make firearms illegal....again, how is that so difficult to comprehend?

So you government can not restrict gun ownership to its citizens?

Certain licenses can be denied, if you're a convicted felon you can't own or even hold a gun. It's not an absolute.....unless you're a law abiding citizen.

What if the government deny its civilians the ownership of guns and only allowed the authorities to have them?

Since the government is founded on and runs based off of the Constitution it would be unconstitutional for such a law to be passed. That said, if such a law WAS passed then it would be my DUTY as an American citizen to revolt against a tyrannical government.


....is this some kind of novel idea to you? It's fairly simple to me, maybe it's because I grew up with it. Not that I'm some kind of compound having unofficial state militia starting crazy person, just because the Constitution is the rule and guide of government, the Constitution says what the government can't do, and the founding fathers said basically "If the government stops going by the Constitution then it's your job as a citizen to overthrow the government"....that's just the way it is.

Just what a freedom fighter/terrorist would say.

Facile argument there Master, I respect you and know you are smarter than that.....but if you care to elaborate be my guest.

You would overthrow the democratic government because you fundamentally disagreed with it.

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

That is a no then. You would not respect and accept the law of the land.

Master, it is literally IMPOSSIBLE for that to be the "law of the land" as it is against the law for the Federal or State government to make firearms illegal....again, how is that so difficult to comprehend?

So you government can not restrict gun ownership to its citizens?

Certain licenses can be denied, if you're a convicted felon you can't own or even hold a gun. It's not an absolute.....unless you're a law abiding citizen.

What if the government deny its civilians the ownership of guns and only allowed the authorities to have them?

Since the government is founded on and runs based off of the Constitution it would be unconstitutional for such a law to be passed. That said, if such a law WAS passed then it would be my DUTY as an American citizen to revolt against a tyrannical government.


....is this some kind of novel idea to you? It's fairly simple to me, maybe it's because I grew up with it. Not that I'm some kind of compound having unofficial state militia starting crazy person, just because the Constitution is the rule and guide of government, the Constitution says what the government can't do, and the founding fathers said basically "If the government stops going by the Constitution then it's your job as a citizen to overthrow the government"....that's just the way it is.

Just what a freedom fighter/terrorist would say.

Facile argument there Master, I respect you and know you are smarter than that.....but if you care to elaborate be my guest.

You would overthrow the democratic government because you fundamentally disagreed with it.

Again, that's a facile argument.

No.

I would fight the government because the government would have overstepped it's bounds and infringed on the rights of all law abiding Americans.....ergo the government would be considered "tyrannical" and I would be lawfully justified in rebelling against that "democratic government".


It's not a matter of "disagreeing" it's a matter of government overreach.

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

That is a no then. You would not respect and accept the law of the land.

Master, it is literally IMPOSSIBLE for that to be the "law of the land" as it is against the law for the Federal or State government to make firearms illegal....again, how is that so difficult to comprehend?

So you government can not restrict gun ownership to its citizens?

Certain licenses can be denied, if you're a convicted felon you can't own or even hold a gun. It's not an absolute.....unless you're a law abiding citizen.

What if the government deny its civilians the ownership of guns and only allowed the authorities to have them?

Since the government is founded on and runs based off of the Constitution it would be unconstitutional for such a law to be passed. That said, if such a law WAS passed then it would be my DUTY as an American citizen to revolt against a tyrannical government.


....is this some kind of novel idea to you? It's fairly simple to me, maybe it's because I grew up with it. Not that I'm some kind of compound having unofficial state militia starting crazy person, just because the Constitution is the rule and guide of government, the Constitution says what the government can't do, and the founding fathers said basically "If the government stops going by the Constitution then it's your job as a citizen to overthrow the government"....that's just the way it is.

Just what a freedom fighter/terrorist would say.

Facile argument there Master, I respect you and know you are smarter than that.....but if you care to elaborate be my guest.

You would overthrow the democratic government because you fundamentally disagreed with it.

Again, that's a facile argument.

No.

I would fight the government because the government would have overstepped it's bounds and infringed on the rights of all law abiding Americans.....ergo the government would be considered "tyrannical" and I would be lawfully justified in rebelling against that "democratic government".


It's not a matter of "disagreeing" it's a matter of government overreach.

I will not rely on Hillary clinton or Obama to protect me..... I need protection from THEM, for when the whackos come for our guns. We went through King George once, we aint doin it again ---- unarmed, atleast.

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

That is a no then. You would not respect and accept the law of the land.

Master, it is literally IMPOSSIBLE for that to be the "law of the land" as it is against the law for the Federal or State government to make firearms illegal....again, how is that so difficult to comprehend?

So you government can not restrict gun ownership to its citizens?

Certain licenses can be denied, if you're a convicted felon you can't own or even hold a gun. It's not an absolute.....unless you're a law abiding citizen.

What if the government deny its civilians the ownership of guns and only allowed the authorities to have them?

Since the government is founded on and runs based off of the Constitution it would be unconstitutional for such a law to be passed. That said, if such a law WAS passed then it would be my DUTY as an American citizen to revolt against a tyrannical government.


....is this some kind of novel idea to you? It's fairly simple to me, maybe it's because I grew up with it. Not that I'm some kind of compound having unofficial state militia starting crazy person, just because the Constitution is the rule and guide of government, the Constitution says what the government can't do, and the founding fathers said basically "If the government stops going by the Constitution then it's your job as a citizen to overthrow the government"....that's just the way it is.

Just what a freedom fighter/terrorist would say.

Facile argument there Master, I respect you and know you are smarter than that.....but if you care to elaborate be my guest.

You would overthrow the democratic government because you fundamentally disagreed with it.

Again, that's a facile argument.

No.

I would fight the government because the government would have overstepped it's bounds and infringed on the rights of all law abiding Americans.....ergo the government would be considered "tyrannical" and I would be lawfully justified in rebelling against that "democratic government".


It's not a matter of "disagreeing" it's a matter of government overreach.

It is not a facile argument when you would pick up a gun against your own government.

Originally Posted by Master

It is not a facile argument when you would pick up a gun against your own government.

It's a facile argument because you don't take into account how this nation was founded and what it was founded on.


Also I take it you've not read much on the Founding Fathers, please educate yourself on them.

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Master

That is a no then. You would not respect and accept the law of the land.

Master, it is literally IMPOSSIBLE for that to be the "law of the land" as it is against the law for the Federal or State government to make firearms illegal....again, how is that so difficult to comprehend?

Just one question. Just for the sake of argument, let's say if the people decides to repeal the 2nd and calls for an amendment to the constitution and suppose the people vote overwhelmingly for the repeal, will you fully accept that? But no, I'm not trying to put you on the spot or anything like that.

Originally Posted by pacfan

Just one question. Just for the sake of argument, let's say if the people decides to repeal the 2nd and calls for an amendment to the constitution and suppose the people vote overwhelmingly for the repeal, will you fully accept that? But no, I'm not trying to put you on the spot or anything like that.

Now THAT could happen in reality...it's highly doubtful that it would, but that's not the question you asked so I'll stick to answering that question.



IF what you propose actually happened in the United States then I would with a clear conscience become a criminal and keep my firearms because I as an individual believe that it is a God given right that I'm allowed to defend myself however I deem necessary. I would not offer myself up to be jailed or punished, I would merely resist by inaction.....lest it be necessary to resist by force.


Likewise I would have not abided by the 18th Amendment either.