Thread: Fighters who had the most title shots

Worst HW champ thread made me think of Axel Schulz. Not a bad fighter, but thought he was a one and done champ. After boxrec'ing to see what title fight I watched him lose to Moorer, ---I didn't realize it was vacant.

More surprising was seeing not only how many title shots he had...but lost.
And!!!!!. How many were vacant titles.
If Box rec is accurate, Axel Schulz:

... did win some vacant BDB German title.
Then..
A draw with Henry Akinwande for a vacant EBU European title.
Next fight he got a rematch for the vacant EBU...and lost to Henry.

Fought George Forman for the IBF and vacant WBU: Lost.
Few months later fought Frans Botha for the now vacant IBF: NC
Few months later fought Michael Moorer for the same vacant belt-IBF:Lost.

5 wins, three years later fights Wlad Klitschko for WBA (intercontinental) oh, and the vacant EBU again: Lost.


Who are some fighters that have had multiple title shots that compares to this dude?

No one I've seen compares to Rocky Juarez.

Griffith jumped right out
Judah comes to mind
Toney
Salido
Zapada


And ftr Schultz got severely jobbed by that Foreman decision. He clearly won that fight and afterward would never be the same

Originally Posted by Hulk

No one I've seen compares to Rocky Juarez.

I hated Juarez. He just kept getting pushed and getting gift decisions but could never win a title after so many shots. I never thought he was good from the beginning and I always wondered why he was such a golden boy.

Frank Bruno had more shots than a blind man in a clay pigeon shooting contest.

Judah was my initial thought, followed by Martyn Murray and it has to be said George Groves.

John Ruiz

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Frank Bruno had more shots than a blind man in a clay pigeon shooting contest.

won the world title on his 4th attempt

but common lets look at the title fights he lost, witherspoon, lewis, Tyson

and Tyson in his defence

there should be another thread asking which fighter has the toughest list of opponents for his world title challenges

Arthur Abraham seems to gets title shots all the time.

Judah must have naked pictures of the powers that be because he always gets a shot.

Originally Posted by IamInuit

And ftr Schultz got severely jobbed by that Foreman decision. He clearly won that fight and afterward would never be the same

Some would say that was karma for the Akinwande 'draw'...

My 2p on this subject would be Yaqui Lopez. 0-4 in 'world title fight' and also lost North American and State title fights.

Originally Posted by Britkid

Originally Posted by IamInuit

And ftr Schultz got severely jobbed by that Foreman decision. He clearly won that fight and afterward would never be the same

Some would say that was karma for the Akinwande 'draw'...

My 2p on this subject would be Yaqui Lopez. 0-4 in 'world title fight' and also lost North American and State title fights.

He actually had 5.
vs. De Leon 1983 (WBC)
vs. Muhammad 1980 (WBC)
vs. Galindez 1978 (WBA)
vs. Galindez 1977 (WBA)
vs. Conteh 1976 (WBC)

Hopkins had 5 also

Originally Posted by IamInuit

Originally Posted by Britkid

Originally Posted by IamInuit

And ftr Schultz got severely jobbed by that Foreman decision. He clearly won that fight and afterward would never be the same

Some would say that was karma for the Akinwande 'draw'...

My 2p on this subject would be Yaqui Lopez. 0-4 in 'world title fight' and also lost North American and State title fights.

He actually had 5.
vs. De Leon 1983 (WBC)
vs. Muhammad 1980 (WBC)
vs. Galindez 1978 (WBA)
vs. Galindez 1977 (WBA)
vs. Conteh 1976 (WBC)

Hopkins had 5 also

I cannot even blame memory as I checked on boxrec to make sure I had the numbers right; I simply cannot count to five!

Originally Posted by Hulk

No one I've seen compares to Rocky Juarez.

He did win a soft trinket title. His first fight with Barrera was a good fight.changed decision with a rematch and he never fought with a sense of urgency afterward.

Yet as you stated gift title fight after gift title fight...

The Shultz run is really a trip. He has his ranking bought and payed for and is exhibit A in lawsuits and investigations that bring down Lee and help put spotlight on corruption in boxing. He is looked at as a joke vs Foreman then goes on to absolutely box his ears off. Rematch ordered, Big George says thanks but no thanks so Shultz gets Botha for vacant title. He earns his title fight after the fact. Then he beats Botha, gets jobbed, and Botha proves a steroid cheat so the fight goes NC aka it never happened. Ibf orders a rematch for the dirty hair ball and a judge tells ibf to feck right off and orders Shultz vs Moorer right away. Weird like that. Guy brought in from obscurity and gets the last laugh with three massive pay days. Then poof. Gone.

Zapata, Galindez and Judah good calls! I remember a guy calling Judah the Buffalo Bills of boxing. Good enough to get to the dance but struggled to steal the stage. Juarez already mentioned also. More lives than a feral cat. Pazienza had a bunch. Light to Spr. Middle you'd figure as much. Today Humberto Soto and Jhonny Gonzalez. Leo Gamez ran the board and became four division champ. Guess you have the two classes of title shots. Ones you bring in who always put up a decent scrap but condidered somewhat safe. The measuring sticks. Then as we see more today the guys who 'collect' trinkets and just as quickly dump them. More an indictment on the sub divisions mountains of plastic belts they hand out.

Nice class Spicoli.

And the Moorer fight was close IMO. Didn't he fracture Mike's nose or jaw?

Great call on Johnny G. Can't believe he is still add it.