Thread: Why Floyd Won - No Excuses

Originally Posted by Starr

Why is everyone saying that Floyd dominated Zab?

Basically this

Zab dominated Floyd early, Floyd adapted and was breaking Judah down, the incident happened, Zab won the last 2 rounds because Mayweather fought defensive.

Floyd didn't OWN Zab, he OWN's Gatti. But he didn't OWN Castillo or Zab Zab didn't get his a** kicked.

So your trying to say that at some point in the fight Zab dominated but Floyd didn't.So what do you call getting hit 188 times vs. 88 for zab.You are right he didn't dominated him like he did gatti because of course zab is better fighter than gatti but if you think zab dominated then what did floyd do? He must of did more than dominate being that he won and left the ring blemish free and judah was swelled up and bloody.If zab walked in your house with his face looking like that you know your first thought would be,"Damn who whipped your a#*!

Domination is different then breaking a fighter down.

Domination is about damage directly dealt out.

Breaking down is sucking the life away, and takes more skill>

anyone can dominate, but it takes a master to break down.

learn the difference

Originally Posted by Starr

Domination is different then breaking a fighter down.

Domination is about damage directly dealt out.

Breaking down is sucking the life away, and takes more skill>

anyone can dominate, but it takes a master to break down.

learn the difference

Oh I know the differences but it seems that you don't. So i will use words. By breaking judah down he was able to dominate him. Not being able to put up a solid offensive for 8 straight rounds and getting beat up in the process is domination. You say anyone could dominate so could you just go to the gym tomorrow and dominate Ann Wolfe?I don't think so. Domination and breaking down both take skill. But if you don't believe that I could show you. I think we from the same hood.We could get up one day.

Originally Posted by MRMANICK

Originally Posted by Starr

Domination is different then breaking a fighter down.

Domination is about damage directly dealt out.

Breaking down is sucking the life away, and takes more skill>

anyone can dominate, but it takes a master to break down.

learn the difference

Oh I know the differences but it seems that you don't. So i will use words. By breaking judah down he was able to dominate him. Not being able to put up a solid offensive for 8 straight rounds and getting beat up in the process is domination.

5 straight rounds.

6, 7, 8, 9, 10

You say anyone could dominate so could you just go to the gym tomorrow and dominate Ann Wolfe?

You take my statement out of context and add sarcasm to it not proving a point either way.

I don't think so. Domination and breaking down both take skill. But if you don't believe that I could show you. I think we from the same hood.We could get up one day.

Any fighter can overpower an opponent when they have the advantages over them and makes them so apparent they dominate them(Mayweather vs. Gatti, DLH vs. Gatti) a blow out, if you will.

But breaking down a fighter takes more skill then just using your natural advantages against an overmatched opponent.

Gainer vs. Leon is a great example of this. Floyd Mayweather vs. Judah is another good example.

Dominating is beating the life out of

Breaking down is slowly sucking the life out of

There's a difference, learn it.

Originally Posted by Starr

Domination is different then breaking a fighter down.

Domination is about damage directly dealt out.

Breaking down is sucking the life away, and takes more skill>

anyone can dominate, but it takes a master to break down.

learn the difference

I agree, but then you are saying that Floyd is a master? I also agree!

Originally Posted by Unknowndonor

Originally Posted by Starr

Domination is different then breaking a fighter down.

Domination is about damage directly dealt out.

Breaking down is sucking the life away, and takes more skill>

anyone can dominate, but it takes a master to break down.

learn the difference

I agree, but then you are saying that Floyd is a master? I also agree!

Oh i agree too about what the differences are but starr never got to my point from my first post which is how can you say zab dominated and not say floyd dominated?

Originally Posted by Starr

5 straight rounds.

6, 7, 8, 9, 10

You say anyone could dominate so could you just go to the gym tomorrow and dominate Ann Wolfe?

You take my statement out of context and add sarcasm to it not proving a point either way.

I don't think so. Domination and breaking down both take skill. But if you don't believe that I could show you. I think we from the same hood.We could get up one day.

Any fighter can overpower an opponent when they have the advantages over them and makes them so apparent they dominate them(Mayweather vs. Gatti, DLH vs. Gatti) a blow out, if you will.

But breaking down a fighter takes more skill then just using your natural advantages against an overmatched opponent.

Gainer vs. Leon is a great example of this. Floyd Mayweather vs. Judah is another good example.

Dominating is beating the life out of

Breaking down is slowly sucking the life out of

There's a difference, learn it.

Apparently you never saw that post

Originally Posted by Starr

Originally Posted by MRMANICK

Originally Posted by Starr

Domination is different then breaking a fighter down.

Domination is about damage directly dealt out.

Breaking down is sucking the life away, and takes more skill>

anyone can dominate, but it takes a master to break down.

learn the difference

Oh I know the differences but it seems that you don't. So i will use words. By breaking judah down he was able to dominate him. Not being able to put up a solid offensive for 8 straight rounds and getting beat up in the process is domination.

5 straight rounds.

6, 7, 8, 9, 10

You say anyone could dominate so could you just go to the gym tomorrow and dominate Ann Wolfe?

You take my statement out of context and add sarcasm to it not proving a point either way.

I don't think so. Domination and breaking down both take skill. But if you don't believe that I could show you. I think we from the same hood.We could get up one day.

Any fighter can overpower an opponent when they have the advantages over them and makes them so apparent they dominate them(Mayweather vs. Gatti, DLH vs. Gatti) a blow out, if you will.

But breaking down a fighter takes more skill then just using your natural advantages against an overmatched opponent.

Gainer vs. Leon is a great example of this. Floyd Mayweather vs. Judah is another good example.

Dominating is beating the life out of

Breaking down is slowly sucking the life out of

There's a difference, learn it.

Really. So you think there was a point in the fight where judah was beating the life of floyd.I mean you did say he DOMINATED the early rounds? Right?

Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

this thursday the result WILL be altered

We'll see... there is no way they are going to make it anything either than a draw, and we'll all know Mayweather won which is all that really matters.

Originally Posted by MRMANICK

Really. So you think there was a point in the fight where judah was beating the life of floyd.I mean you did say he DOMINATED the early rounds? Right?

What Zab did

Originally Posted by Starr

Domination is about damage directly dealt out.

Originally Posted by Starr

Any fighter can overpower an opponent when they have the advantages over them and makes them so apparent they dominate them.

THIS is what Zab did to Mayweather early, he used his power and speed as those advantages and made it apparent. It's a more physical performance then a systematic.

it's the difference between a Mayweather Gatti, and a Mayweather Judah.


Ok now,

Floyd did this

Originally Posted by Starr

Breaking down is sucking the life away, and takes more skill

As Judah was being "dominant" Mayweather was "breaking him down" What I mean by this as, when Judah was taking apparent advantages, Floyd was slowly taking those advantages away, causing Zab to be less dominant, and Mayweather sucks the life away.

Originally Posted by Starr

Gainer vs. Leon is a great example of this.

I use Gainer Leon as an example of "breaking down" because early on, Leon was "dominate" against Gainer, but as Leon was "dominant" Gainer was "breaking him down" little by little. Watch that fight.


Do you get it now?

Starr, you said breaking down a fighter takes a master, and that's what Floyd did.

So, from what you stated{in your words}, Floyd is a master. Correct?

Originally Posted by Unknowndonor

Starr, you said breaking down a fighter takes a master, and that's what Floyd did.

So, from what you stated{in your words}, Floyd is a master. Correct?

Of course Floyd is. I never discredit Floyd's skills.

Originally Posted by Starr

Originally Posted by Unknowndonor

Starr, you said breaking down a fighter takes a master, and that's what Floyd did.

So, from what you stated{in your words}, Floyd is a master. Correct?

Of course Floyd is. I never discredit Floyd's skills.

I know you know boxing, but I have to say that you are the first person{that I've read so far}, that was pulling for Zab, that gives any credit to Floyd.

I picked Lacy to KO Joe, but didn't make excuses because he lost. He got beat by the better fighter who outclassed him. I give Zab some credit, I also gave Lacy some credit for going "away" to make the fight happen, but no excuses.

Originally Posted by Starr

Originally Posted by MRMANICK

Really. So you think there was a point in the fight where judah was beating the life of floyd.I mean you did say he DOMINATED the early rounds? Right?

What Zab did

Originally Posted by Starr

Domination is about damage directly dealt out.

Originally Posted by Starr

Any fighter can overpower an opponent when they have the advantages over them and makes them so apparent they dominate them.

THIS is what Zab did to Mayweather early, he used his power and speed as those advantages and made it apparent. It's a more physical performance then a systematic.

it's the difference between a Mayweather Gatti, and a Mayweather Judah.


Ok now,

Floyd did this

Originally Posted by Starr

Breaking down is sucking the life away, and takes more skill

As Judah was being "dominant" Mayweather was "breaking him down" What I mean by this as, when Judah was taking apparent advantages, Floyd was slowly taking those advantages away, causing Zab to be less dominant, and Mayweather sucks the life away.

Originally Posted by Starr

Gainer vs. Leon is a great example of this.

I use Gainer Leon as an example of "breaking down" because early on, Leon was "dominate" against Gainer, but as Leon was "dominant" Gainer was "breaking him down" little by little. Watch that fight.


Do you get it now?

Stop making excuses and answer the question. Your definition of domination was''beating the life out of". These are your words. This definition is not from any boxing manual or dictionary. So by your definition this is what you said,"zab beat the life out of floyd in the early rounds"lol. Do yo really believe that? I know you got a little a crush on the man but damn is love really this blind?

Originally Posted by Starr

Why is everyone saying that Floyd dominated Zab?

Basically this

Zab dominated Floyd early, Floyd adapted and was breaking Judah down, the incident happened, Zab won the last 2 rounds because Mayweather fought defensive.

Floyd didn't OWN Zab, he OWN's Gatti. But he didn't OWN Castillo or Zab Zab didn't get his a** kicked.

Do you and Sal sleep in the same bed (together)??