70s-90s compared to 30s boxers

[joe smith]

this disproves the odd quotes/lies/dumb comments for years on forums saying conn/louis/schmeling were so skilled they would beat the big names in the 70s-'90s,all based on highlights or quotes not actually full matches

no one from his era even looked like they would last 1 round even vs no names as the no-names/mid-carders in this video we're way more advanced than his whole era they look like novices

[TitoFan]

I think there's no dispelling the fact that boxers from the 20's and 30's were infinitely more static and robotic than their counterparts of today. Their greatness is based on comparisons within their own eras.

Lots of you don't follow baseball on here. But similar arguments are used when talking about guys like Babe Ruth, et al. Ruth was totally dominant in his time, and totally worthy of the admiration, lofty, and ATG status that has followed his memory throughout the years. But let's face it. Changes in the game... specialized relief pitching... higher pitching mounds... advances in pitch variations... and others... make it very likely that if you suddenly dropped Ruth into today's game... that just maybe he wouldn't be as "head and shoulders" above everyone else.

Like I've said before, boxing has evolved in size and technique. Heavyweight is easier to contrast "now vs then" because heavyweight has no upper limit. Heavyweights back then were smaller. Joe Louis was 6'2"... averaged 200 pounds. A cruiserweight by today's standards. Tough to go up against a 6'-9", 250-260 pound guy with more mobility and hand speed. It's a big ask.

Also, it's obvious watching tapes from old fights. Yes... movement at the waist was limited. There was more plodding. It was just the style back then. It's no slight on past champions. It's just the way it was.

Let's try basketball.

In the old days, nobody could dunk... and a preferred shot was the 2-handed set shot. Go into the NBA with something like that today, and you're likely to never score not even once in a real game. Yet the old champions are still revered. It's all part of the evolution of sports.

[joe smith]

I think there's no dispelling the fact that boxers from the '20s and 30's were infinitely more static and robotic than their counterparts of today. Their greatness is based on comparisons within their own eras.

Lots of you don't follow baseball on here. But similar arguments are used when talking about guys like Babe Ruth, et al. Ruth was totally dominant in his time, and totally worthy of the admiration, lofty, and ATG status that has followed his memory throughout the years. But let's face it. Changes in the game... specialized relief pitching... higher pitching mounds... advances in pitch variations... and others... make it very likely that if you suddenly dropped Ruth into today's game... that just maybe he wouldn't be as "head and shoulders" above everyone else.

Like I've said before, boxing has evolved in size and technique. Heavyweight is easier to contrast "now vs then" because heavyweight has no upper limit. Heavyweights back then were smaller. Joe Louis was 6'2"... averaged 200 pounds. A cruiserweight by today's standards. Tough to go up against a 6'-9", 250-260 pound guy with more mobility and hand speed. It's a big ask.

Also, it's obvious watching tapes from old fights. Yes... movement at the waist was limited. There was more plodding. It was just the style back then. It's no slight on past champions. It's just the way it was.

Let's try basketball.

In the old days, nobody could dunk... and a preferred shot was the 2-handed set shot. Go into the NBA with something like that today, and you're likely to never score not even once in a real game. Yet the old champions are still revered. It's all part of the evolution of sports.

This post isn't for you,it's specifically for people who have said for years those guys in 30s could beat guys in 70s-90s,they need to respond

[TitoFan]

I think there's no dispelling the fact that boxers from the '20s and 30's were infinitely more static and robotic than their counterparts of today. Their greatness is based on comparisons within their own eras.

Lots of you don't follow baseball on here. But similar arguments are used when talking about guys like Babe Ruth, et al. Ruth was totally dominant in his time, and totally worthy of the admiration, lofty, and ATG status that has followed his memory throughout the years. But let's face it. Changes in the game... specialized relief pitching... higher pitching mounds... advances in pitch variations... and others... make it very likely that if you suddenly dropped Ruth into today's game... that just maybe he wouldn't be as "head and shoulders" above everyone else.

Like I've said before, boxing has evolved in size and technique. Heavyweight is easier to contrast "now vs then" because heavyweight has no upper limit. Heavyweights back then were smaller. Joe Louis was 6'2"... averaged 200 pounds. A cruiserweight by today's standards. Tough to go up against a 6'-9", 250-260 pound guy with more mobility and hand speed. It's a big ask.

Also, it's obvious watching tapes from old fights. Yes... movement at the waist was limited. There was more plodding. It was just the style back then. It's no slight on past champions. It's just the way it was.

Let's try basketball.

In the old days, nobody could dunk... and a preferred shot was the 2-handed set shot. Go into the NBA with something like that today, and you're likely to never score not even once in a real game. Yet the old champions are still revered. It's all part of the evolution of sports.

This post isn't for you,it's specifically for people who have said for years those guys in 30s could beat guys in 70s-90s,they need to respond

As far as I know, this is an open forum. Which means anyone in here is free to express their opinion, including those who "have said for years...".

Disliking my post and then snapping at me that this post isn't for me sort of rubs me the wrong way.

But carry on.

Just a word of advice to please remove that Gibraltar-sized chip from your shoulder.

Good points can get lost in the methodology.

[Primo Carnera]

I think there's no dispelling the fact that boxers from the '20s and 30's were infinitely more static and robotic than their counterparts of today. Their greatness is based on comparisons within their own eras.

Lots of you don't follow baseball on here. But similar arguments are used when talking about guys like Babe Ruth, et al. Ruth was totally dominant in his time, and totally worthy of the admiration, lofty, and ATG status that has followed his memory throughout the years. But let's face it. Changes in the game... specialized relief pitching... higher pitching mounds... advances in pitch variations... and others... make it very likely that if you suddenly dropped Ruth into today's game... that just maybe he wouldn't be as "head and shoulders" above everyone else.

Like I've said before, boxing has evolved in size and technique. Heavyweight is easier to contrast "now vs then" because heavyweight has no upper limit. Heavyweights back then were smaller. Joe Louis was 6'2"... averaged 200 pounds. A cruiserweight by today's standards. Tough to go up against a 6'-9", 250-260 pound guy with more mobility and hand speed. It's a big ask.

Also, it's obvious watching tapes from old fights. Yes... movement at the waist was limited. There was more plodding. It was just the style back then. It's no slight on past champions. It's just the way it was.

Let's try basketball.

In the old days, nobody could dunk... and a preferred shot was the 2-handed set shot. Go into the NBA with something like that today, and you're likely to never score not even once in a real game. Yet the old champions are still revered. It's all part of the evolution of sports.

This post isn't for you,it's specifically for people who have said for years those guys in 30s could beat guys in 70s-90s,they need to respond

Why am I insane?

[Primo Carnera]

I think there's no dispelling the fact that boxers from the '20s and 30's were infinitely more static and robotic than their counterparts of today. Their greatness is based on comparisons within their own eras.

Lots of you don't follow baseball on here. But similar arguments are used when talking about guys like Babe Ruth, et al. Ruth was totally dominant in his time, and totally worthy of the admiration, lofty, and ATG status that has followed his memory throughout the years. But let's face it. Changes in the game... specialized relief pitching... higher pitching mounds... advances in pitch variations... and others... make it very likely that if you suddenly dropped Ruth into today's game... that just maybe he wouldn't be as "head and shoulders" above everyone else.

Like I've said before, boxing has evolved in size and technique. Heavyweight is easier to contrast "now vs then" because heavyweight has no upper limit. Heavyweights back then were smaller. Joe Louis was 6'2"... averaged 200 pounds. A cruiserweight by today's standards. Tough to go up against a 6'-9", 250-260 pound guy with more mobility and hand speed. It's a big ask.

Also, it's obvious watching tapes from old fights. Yes... movement at the waist was limited. There was more plodding. It was just the style back then. It's no slight on past champions. It's just the way it was.

Let's try basketball.

In the old days, nobody could dunk... and a preferred shot was the 2-handed set shot. Go into the NBA with something like that today, and you're likely to never score not even once in a real game. Yet the old champions are still revered. It's all part of the evolution of sports.

This post isn't for you,it's specifically for people who have said for years those guys in 30s could beat guys in 70s-90s,they need to respond

Why am I insane?

is the louis era more advanced or as advanced as those guys in the video

Why am I insane?

[TIC]

is the louis era more advanced or as advanced as those guys in the video

post one quote from this forum of a member saying that the louis era is more advanced or as advanced as those in the video. please provide the link to the thread & the post number

[NoSavingByTheBell]

People were tougher back then, could fight with serious injuries for 15 rounds, and still win a fight. Tough as nails. Their toughness alone will give them a very good chance of beating some of these marshmallows today despite their enormous size ....there is no way that Anthony Joshua or Tyson Fury could take the kind of punishment for example that the old timers could take, they would fold, they would quit, even Mike Tyson for the amount of punishment he took said he could never take the amount of punishment that for example Muhammad Ali could take and keep fighting and that he was willing to die in the ring. This bigger more advanced generation of fighters is not willing to die in the ring and they would quit when the times got really tough like in the first Ali Frazier fight for example or for example in Rocky Marciano and Joe Walcott that was one of the most brutal wars of attrition I have ever seen in the ring or you take Aaron prior and Alexis arguello and there is no way this newer breed of fighters is going to dig down that deep and take that kind of punishment for 15 rounds and keep getting stronger and stronger.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

https://youtu.be/ILifpVvnIww?si=9Tn981S1J3kfGoVU

Yes their toughness and also greatness destroys these newer marshmallows