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    Default Loma vs Pedraza, your thoughts?

    What do you think?
    Last edited by Ron Swanson; 08-28-2018 at 05:04 AM.

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    Default Re: Lona vs Pedraza, your thoughts?

    Easy win for Loma, good tune up after surgery I guess for Loma and unifies another 2 belts. Needs to lead to a Garcia showdown tho.
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    Default Re: Lona vs Pedraza, your thoughts?

    Another route that I think is acceptable is it leading to Davis.

    Earlier I was frustrated that for all the talk of Loma doing this and that so fast by number of fights in 6 years he has yet to face the best in any division he has campaigned. Seems a bit of hollow numbers. But I like the guy too much, I will back off my eagerness to see him challenge himself for another year. If it hasn’t happened by then I’m off the train.

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    Default Re: Lona vs Pedraza, your thoughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Another route that I think is acceptable is it leading to Davis.

    Earlier I was frustrated that for all the talk of Loma doing this and that so fast by number of fights in 6 years he has yet to face the best in any division he has campaigned. Seems a bit of hollow numbers. But I like the guy too much, I will back off my eagerness to see him challenge himself for another year. If it hasn’t happened by then I’m off the train.
    Loma always fights the best who are willing to fight him.

    He wanted to fight Davis at 130, but Gervonta's management decided they didn't want the fight.

    The bad feelings between Mikey Garcia and Bob Arum may prevent Loma-Garcia from happening. But Loma wants it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Another route that I think is acceptable is it leading to Davis.

    Earlier I was frustrated that for all the talk of Loma doing this and that so fast by number of fights in 6 years he has yet to face the best in any division he has campaigned. Seems a bit of hollow numbers. But I like the guy too much, I will back off my eagerness to see him challenge himself for another year. If it hasn’t happened by then I’m off the train.
    Loma always fights the best who are willing to fight him.

    He wanted to fight Davis at 130, but Gervonta's management decided they didn't want the fight.

    The bad feelings between Mikey Garcia and Bob Arum may prevent Loma-Garcia from happening. But Loma wants it.
    I just don’t buy this.(no offense)If fighters want fights they happen. Have we heard Loma say he is telling Bob to get him Garcia? Because we’ve heard Garcia “Loma is my best option so we are talking to people at Top Rank because Arum WON’T TALK TO US”. Mikey’s dad is quite clear he wants the Loma fight, Mikey’s trainer is quite clear he wants the Loma fight. Mikey says as far as risk/reward it is the best fight out there for him and he wants it but knows he won’t get it.

    Don’t get me wrong, I think Loma would take the fight if it was presented to him. But it is his side that is holding it up so it is his job to be forceful that he wants it.

    Look how far the double standards are in responsibility. The last thread talking about this fight we acknowledged

    Arum won’t talk to Mikey
    Arum says he won’t negotiate with Mikey
    Arum says he is willing to make Mikey an offer
    Mikey says he is willing to negotiate
    Mikey is even trying with those at TR that will talk with him
    The one sticking point on Mikey’s side is he won’t sign an extension withTR

    Now what was said about these known facts. People argued Mikey should sign an extended contract with TR. Why? If this sticking point was reversed nobody would say Loma should sign an extended contract to a promoter of Mikey’s choosing.

    Nobody is saying Loma should demand Arum negotiates with Mikey, nobody is even saying Loma should demand Arum even speaks to Mikey. Why not?

    Nobody is asking where is the offer Arum said he would make. Why not?

    If people can’t see there is a double standard it is only because they are ignoring what is obvious to see.

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    What’s crazy about this is I really like Loma, I believe he is willing to fight whoever Arum tells him to fight, sort of. I only say sort of because everyone seems to have to come to him. In most he’s the name so okay, but PAC has to come to 135 according to Loma himself, why? Why not 138, 137? Always to him. I’m in no way saying he is avoiding. I’m just saying he is not facilitating.

    If it’s his side that is keeping a Mikey fight from happening, and we know it is. He bares some responsibility. But people “Mikey should be out there making a scene forcing the fight”. Why is it the side that is willing that gets all the responsibility? If Loma is indeed looking to fight the best where are the calls for him to demand it?

    Again, not saying he isn’t willing, just pointing out that there is a clear double standard.

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    Default Re: Loma vs Pedraza, your thoughts?

    Hindsight being 20-20 it's a much better show for Loma than Beltran if he showed up remotely close to the Beltran we saw over the weekend. But still, it's just trinket collecting for Loma and Arum nothing more. Pedraza didn't just earn his spot he took someone else's and respect for that but he'll be the canvas and Loma will do the painting that night. I want these guys to get the 135 house in order, Garcia and Loma will go down as a super-fight missed. They really do need each other. More so now since both will hold all the shiny objects assuming Pedraza doesn't shock the world. Also Commey is a formidable fight for any of the trinket holders.

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    Default Re: Lona vs Pedraza, your thoughts?

    Davis has work at 130 for me Berchelt, Farmer before moving up. He has already struggled with the weight, so he could move up sooner. 135 is pretty thin other than Garcia and Linares in terms of big top class fights, so it could be a very good match up.
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    Default Re: Lona vs Pedraza, your thoughts?

    Pedraza is a pretty good fighter, but he is nowhere near the level of Loma. I understand the fight, but I’m not super excited for it or anything. I will definitely watch it though.

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    Default Re: Lona vs Pedraza, your thoughts?

    Easy win for Loma but it makes sense if he was going to face Beltran.

    Who are the "best" fighters Loma has swerved in each division? His record is completely and utterly brilliant for someone with a dozen fights.
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    Default Re: Loma vs Pedraza, your thoughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    What do you think?
    Lomachenko embarrasses Pedraza.

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