US needs to beef up its Air Force. Thoughts?

[TitoFan]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...id=mailsignout


First of all....... true? Fake news? I realize anything CNN says now needs to go through that "filter."

Supposing it's true, is the Air Force communicating a real concern? Are they just scaremongering to get additional funds?

What would conflicts with Russia, China, or both look like? Whatever they're like, it doesn't sound like a good thing for anybody.

Obviously the U.S. can't control the amounts of money apparently being spent by these other powers to beef up their military.

So what's the answer?

[El Kabong]

Well not really now but you always have to prepare for the future.

[walrus]

China is building the tech and certainly has an army amongst the largest in world. China is concerned they have had no active warfare in over 40 years. They have been hooking up with Russia for war games and learn from Russia’s Chechnya, Ukraine and Syrian war.

[brocktonblockbust]

the US needs to build bases on the moon and on Mars and in the asteroid belt too because the US is never done with trying to dominate the world and the human race is never done trying to outdo each other Russia and China and the United States etc etc ad infinitum until we are all gone and wiped out

[Gandalf]

Good luck with that. 50 years ago China was laughing at you and now 50 years on they are much more powerful and shrugging their shoulders at these tit for tat economic digs. America has to accept that things have changed.

[Gandalf]

That is not an endorsement of China BTW, just a practical observation on the balance of power as it stands now. A war is unwinnable.

[walrus]

Good luck with that. 50 years ago China was laughing at you and now 50 years on they are much more powerful and shrugging their shoulders at these tit for tat economic digs. America has to accept that things have changed.

I don’t know about more powerful than us yet. This little trade dispute has knocked chinas stock market down to where it was in 2015. The yuan is losing against the dollar at this time. China was the first country to blow up a orbiting satellite via ground missile launch. Blew that satellite right up. China and Russia (I’m sure us as well) have weaponized satellites. Trumps call for a space force really isn’t crazy, that shit is gonna have to happen. It is a shame, think of all the good that could be done if we didn’t have stockpile weapons that will take out the world times 1000

[El Kabong]

Good luck with that. 50 years ago China was laughing at you and now 50 years on they are much more powerful and shrugging their shoulders at these tit for tat economic digs. America has to accept that things have changed.

Sure thing, we've been waiting for them to take over....been soooo looooong waiting waiting waiting

[Gandalf]

Hate to say it Lyle as I like you chaps and I hardly endorse a country that bans the books of one of my favorite writers, but one of the reasons you left with tail between the legs in Vietnam was because of the support of Russia and China. You were a much stronger country then too. You are seeing the same happen in Syria and China of course ignores your sanctions on Iran as does Russia with North Korea.

It is just something you cannot win. When those two are aligned you are outmatched and China of today is much richer than then. Their infrastructure like here is modern and pristine. Ask Brock what the New York subway is like andthe London Tube is some kind of antiquity. You chaps have lost the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq spending how much money? China meanwhile has of course built up its manufacturing and has a big world to trade with. America is only 300 million people. The sad thing is that it was all purposely given away by your elites. Thus you have tens of millions on welfare. China has all those jobs now and more as it has a huge domestic market too.

Building more aircraft is not going to change the balance of power.

[TitoFan]

It's in this global arena that the U.S. needs to be savvy in its dealings with both China and Russia. These countries by themselves are not up to par with the U.S. if push comes to shove, but a partnership between the two would be a formidable force. While China and Russia have their share of differences, undue pressure from Washington could push them together. It's something to keep in mind.

[TitoFan]

It's in this global arena that the U.S. needs to be savvy in its dealings with both China and Russia. These countries by themselves are not up to par with the U.S. if push comes to shove, but a partnership between the two would be a formidable force. While China and Russia have their share of differences, undue pressure from Washington could push them together. It's something to keep in mind.

Any serious thoughts on this? We went off on some WWII tangents and the like, but I've read some articles where the possibility of current U.S. politics pushing these two together is something to at least consider.
Could Trump be making bedfellows of Putin and Jinping? If so, how bad would that be?

[walrus]

It's in this global arena that the U.S. needs to be savvy in its dealings with both China and Russia. These countries by themselves are not up to par with the U.S. if push comes to shove, but a partnership between the two would be a formidable force. While China and Russia have their share of differences, undue pressure from Washington could push them together. It's something to keep in mind.

Any serious thoughts on this? We went off on some WWII tangents and the like, but I've read some articles where the possibility of current U.S. politics pushing these two together is something to at least consider.
Could Trump be making bedfellows of Putin and Jinping? If so, how bad would that be?

It’s been happening before trump. Although they are trying to counter the US China has a deep mistrust of Russia its a marriage of convenience