jab right hand

[cocobeware]

Is it true that when throwing the left jab or right cross that they should not cross youre centre line? Does that mean that they never cross paths for instance say just for examples sake if you threw the jab and right cross at the same time they would both land side by side right next to each other but without crossing over each other,Although i know this probably wouldnt be the case on the focus mitts(pads) but on the bags and when facing an opponent.Hope this makes sense....

[Sharla]

I think - in my opinion - that they shouldn't cross over but should hit the same target if it is still your target by the time you throw the second punch.

On the bag i would not ever deliberately make a habbit of hitting adjacent points rather than the same spot if that's what you mean.

I would try to keep it balance so i didn't over balance throwing the cross which is easy to do sometimes causing the right cross to land too far to the left so you would actually hit a spot to the left of where your jab landed.

I THINK One example of how that might happen is say if i was to come up more on my right toes and perhaps be a little too flat footed on the left. Perhaps having incorrect foot placement and angles to begin with would predispose someone to that problem.

I know it is a problem I've had before but I am struggling to rationalize the reason right now - I'm sure other people on this board might be able to offer a better explanation.

Also just in general I wouldn't alway pick a set target in bag work. Perhaps try to visualize different situations as they would happen more in sparring with a target which is constantly changing and moving although i know it's much easier said than done!

[cocobeware]

Thanks for the response,i think i know what you mean.What i have been trying to do is get the jab and right hand grouped as close together as i can without actually crossing over beacause if i was going for someones head its gonna be a pretty small target sort of like when hitting the double end bag and also when trying to get straight punches of quickly i think they would get in the way of each other...

[cocobeware]

like at the end of this clip...YouTube - Introduction to the heavybag

[cocobeware]

sorry cant seem to get it to work...

[Sharla]

I think i understand without watching it anyway.

Do you mind me asking what size gloves you wear for bag work?

[Trainer Monkey]

If I understand your question correctly.
A left jab should be a straight shot,the right cross while it should be driven to the same spot,it should have a head in the way so it never gets there.
And if you can move your opponent that much with your cross, please call me. I think I can work with you

[Andre]

it should have a head in the way so it never gets there.

[Sharla]

I haven't been hit in the head at all lately but i'm feeling more retarded than usual. I just don't get this.

Wouldn't the head usually be knocked back slightly rather than coming forward?

So the right cross wouldn't have your opponent's head in the way of reaching the same point as the jab at all but actually probably be able to move further forward?

Or do you mean the head in the way is your own replacing the point where your opponent was before they went back after a really good jab or just in retreat?



I'm so confused by this I just managed to burn what I had cooking on the stove!

[Trainer Monkey]

I haven't been hit in the head at all lately but i'm feeling more retarded than usual. I just don't get this.

Wouldn't the head usually be knocked back slightly rather than coming forward?

So the right cross wouldn't have your opponent's head in the way of reaching the same point as the jab at all but actually probably be able to move further forward?

Or do you mean the head in the way is your own replacing the point where your opponent was before they went back after a really good job or just in retreat?



I'm so confused by this I just managed to burn what I had cooking on the stove!

Your driving with your hips to a point,you dont actually expect to get to that point, but its a way to visualize what your trying to do. Thats where alot of trainers go wrong,your teaching a visualization process. Not a legitimate expectation.
You need to visualize being able to follow through your punch for it to really be able to do the damage its supposed to.

[Sharla]

So you visualize a punch going through an opponent coming forward even if it doesn't actually do that?

Still a bit confused but I'll think about it for a bit.

[Salty]

Like when hitting the heavy bag, your aiming to punch the back of the bag? that's what i'm thinking he meant.

[Trainer Monkey]

So you visualize a punch going through an opponent coming forward even if it doesn't actually do that?

Still a bit confused but I'll think about it for a bit.

Sort of, a cross or a hook or difficult to describe if you dont have the kid right there
You want to look at a point past where you expect the shot to land,and visualize the shot landing there.Its not going to actually land there, because theres going to be a person in the way, but you need to be aiming there with the person in the way.
Its alot easier to explain when the fighters in the gym, but you want to be envisioning a spot about a half a foot where you know the shots going to land

[Trainer Monkey]

Like when hitting the heavy bag, your aiming to punch the back of the bag? that's what i'm thinking he meant.

Almost on the nose, you want that bag to rock when your on it,making contact wont do it,youve got to drive the shot through.
Even with the jab,when your holding the stand,you want to feel your about to be tossed of it by your fighter, then you know youve got something there.

[Sharla]

Right I think i get it!

I was thinking about where the real life target might move in sparring and you're being more specific about how to use the bag!

I think I understand thanks TM and Salty!