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    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    I disagree with the statement that the top 3 have an argument for the #1 spot. Hard to argue Floyd is #1 based on his achievements, plus he has beaten JMM who you have at 3rd and Ward is active at the moment. Wlad should be higher on the list of the same reason. I may hate him, but he is dominating the division and has the monopoly on every belt bar the one his brother is holding. Also Mares is way too high on the list and I think Sergio should slip a bit. Other than that you have my seal of approval that you craved from the moment you started this thread.
    @bzkfn prior to this Sat. Floyd had been inactive for a year depending on how you personally see or judge that one can argue he would drop off the rankings due to the inactivity. So much happened there in between that it's up to interpretation.
    PBF went inactive, JMM knocked out Pac, Ward was still winning, Sergio was still winning. So for time there around Feb/March or so you could have easily put either guy 1, 2 or 3.
    Yes Floyd is undefeated and it carries a lot of weight but what JMM did is astronomical and what Ward continues to do is phenomenal I've seen rankings with all 3 guys as #1. It's all subjective and a matter of opinion...

    Ward is active yes but has he actually fought? Again it depends on how long the inactivity goes on for. In the case of Floyd it was a year. Ward is on his 8th month which I think is fine still but he hits the 1 yr mark and for me it will hurt his ranking.

    What Wlad continues to do is great but what hurts him is the quality of opposition. If and when Wlad fights and defeats Povetkin I think it will be a big boost to his ranking.

    Mares is now a undefeated 3 division champ with what I consider one of the best resumes in the sport. People forget just how good & highly rated fighters like Agbeko, Darchinyan & Moreno were at one point. For me this carries a lot of weight and now add Ponce De Leon to that list.

    One bad performance and people want to drop off Sergio. Is he done? Perhaps. But he still won and he still remains the undisputed MW king and that continues to be much more than the guys below him.


    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    I don't put Mares or Nonito in there.
    @Vendettos Nonito & Pacquiao for me are the most difficult to rate...
    Pac technically lost to Bradley so you still gotta count that against him although not too harsh because of the fashion in which it happened. But then he got KO'd badly and that for me could easily drop him off the top 10. I've seen him actually dropped off many top 10 rankings. Me personally I put him inside the to 10 and depending on the outcome of his next fight and manner in which he wins it can either help him stay in the lower part of the list or fall out.

    Nonito will not fight again this year but talks have already started for a fight early next year. Depending on how Froch fares in the Kessler bout as well as how Roman Gonzalez handles the rest of the year he has the biggest risk of falling off.


    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    The is crazy subjective so I'll go ahead with my crazy subjective list. With as poor as Martinez looked last time out, I can't puthim in the top five simply because he looked so average against an average fighter in Murray. You could say the exact same for Timothy Bradley, he should have lost his last two bouts!I couldn't in good faith put Bradley above Pacquiao because Pacquiao beat Bradley and only a couple judges felt differently. Pound for Pound lsnt about Who yoave beat exclusively , its about how good you looked doing so.

    1. Floyd
    2. ward
    3. JMM
    4. Pacquiao
    5-Mares
    6.Rigondeaux
    7. Gonzalez
    8-Donaire
    9.Broner
    10. Bradley
    @amat here's what I put above for the Sergio ranking:
    One bad performance and people want to drop off Sergio. Is he done? Perhaps. But he still won and he still remains the undisputed MW king and that continues to be much more than the guys below him.
    P4P rankings are as I understand: Win or Lose (carries the most weight), performace & accomplishments. All 3 things are looked at.

    I just realized you don't have Sergio or Wlad on your list. Wow!
    But you have Broner... I can't agree with that, I can't agree with Broner top 10 just yet. Although picking up that 3rd title would carry some weight.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I don't get Broner in the top 10 p4p. I get Mares, but not in the top 5. I'm not sure if Donaire can be in there after losing to Rigo. Rigo not too high b/c only one victory over top guy and only one weight divison, but he should be in top ten.

    Clear to me are 1. PBF 2. Ward.
    @Rantcatrat agree on the Broner bit...

    My comment above for rating Mares:
    Mares is now a undefeated 3 division champ with what I consider one of the best resumes in the sport. People forget just how good & highly rated fighters like Perez, Agbeko, Darchinyan & Moreno were at one point. For me this carries a lot of weight and now add Ponce De Leon to that list.
    Last edited by CutMeMick; 05-07-2013 at 11:55 PM.

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