Winky's very strong, no doubt about that, and he takes a good shot too. Is he unhurtable, no of course not nobody is, Vasquez hurt him more than once, a very young Winky though, and with his great defense he doesn't have to have a David Tua chin, but the fact that he does have a good chin to go with the defense makes it very hard to hurt him. And he's fast, he's not PBF fast but he's fast enough. So yeah I think he is underrated physically.