And Fulgencio Zuniga right put Pavilk on his assOriginally Posted by No Contest
And Fulgencio Zuniga right put Pavilk on his assOriginally Posted by No Contest
I'm taking Pavlik on a KO....Taylor isn't a real slickster, so I don't see him attempting to out box Kelly, and I haven't been impressed with his power. I never really saw Bhop, Winky, Ouma or Spinks really hurt. JT may try to box, but eventually he will have to bang with Kelly and I think Pavlik has the better chin and power.
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Bilbo, WTF r u talkin about? Taylor can't knockout junior middles that run all night long around him, that's how you should have written it. And I don't know if Miranda had the time and balance to throw bombs at Kelly, all merit to Pavlik though for having his man pressured against the ropes from early on in the fight...Originally Posted by Bilbo
Lou DiBella can't buy judges in Vegas, maybe in Memphis, not definitely in Vegas so fortune telling aside, Kelly can't definitely pressure JT to the ropes with relentless long armed, loose muscle, two fisted attack and even though he has a lot of snap in both left jab and right lead, Jermain will slip punches underneath and score a thunderous right underneath Kelly's punching line that I would be tremendously surprised if Kelly can take... Jermain has a lot of flaws yes but his right cross is like a fast train, a pile driver or a cement block that no gutsy middle can disregard!
The jab will definatly show up...he better throw it hard and early to keep pavlik off him and off any type of rhythm.Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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It sounds easy....Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Everything you say are posibilities...
The fire and rage that I saw on Pavlik the night he stopped Miranda was amazing!! The look on his face was there you could tell he knew what beating Miranda ment.
I just don't see this fire and desire in JT. I'm sorry but I don't it's his (JTs) on fault that people don't belive in him I mean his own people (In a clip shown where he was gfetting his hiarcut) were clowning on his style and how he lacks aggressiveness.
Another thing is I think Pavlik will bring out the best in JT....
Like is said it's pretty difficult for me since I ain't big on either one for those who are calling out rds. and clear cut wins that's cause their hard core fans of the fighters for me I just don't see a clear winner.
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I'm looking for that Pavlik Knock down now, I'm interested in seeing it,I'm wondering if it was an off balance flash knock down or the real thing.
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Taylor has never kissed the canvas? He may well have a good chin but I dont think hes fought anyone with Pavliks power. Hopkins being the hardest hitter hes probably faced. Thats not bad but I think Pavlik has a little more just from what I've seen of them both. Pavlik did face Taylor in the amatuers...lol...Pavlik claims he should have won that fight.....of course.
I took Taylor by KO. I think Jermain finally get's someone to stand in front of him. I think he can handle Pavlik. Should be a hell of a fight though!
Please explain. I can't see how beating anybody convincingly means that that person is better than people give him credit for.Originally Posted by Landon
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Finally, a true Middleweight will show Jermaine Taylor what it means to actually fight like a champion!!! I thought his style was too straight up for Miranda, but his agression and size overcame all else. Please remember NO ONE ELSE jt has faced is as big as Pavlik. Also, I will have to check this, but didn't Pavlik already beat him in the amateurs?
Either way, I can't wait to see this fight!
Bilbo's got it right on time! For those who say that Taylor ducks no one, please remember that he won all FOUR belts from Hopkins, but then REFUSED to fight Abraham (who Miranda fought) and Sturm (who many think beat DLH). He gave up those two belts, then went from 'hungry' to 'biggest payday.' The Winky fight was not a mandatory, but it would have been since Winky was the #1 for BOTH of his belts. Personally, I like all three of them over Taylor in a fight.Originally Posted by Bilbo
For those who are in the UK, please know that DiBella (promoter) and HBO have a 'kissin' cousins' relationship (via Trinidad/Hopkins days), and the rest was outlined by Bilbo. Clearly, it's more complex than that, but you have to think it odd that Bernard was a small Mwt who fought real guys, and Jermaine is a full Mwt who only now is fighting someone his size.
JT beat Pavlik in the Olympic trials by points. Kelly will be the first to admit that he lost but had the chance to win if he would have fought like he was trained. Kelly was 17 and JT was 21 at the time. That made a big difference then. Now Kelly has developed his power a lot and his skills a little more. I personally can't wait for the fight and IMO Pavlik win by KO by round 8.
Thx Dibbs... I like the prediction, because he's gonna have to KO Taylor. It will be a cold day in hell beforeOriginally Posted by zupg
1. Taylor loses a decision in a DiBella promotion, or
2. Taylor fights outside of DiBella promotion, which is why he wouldn't go to Germany.
Abraham said he needed more time before he faced Taylor. And Strum turned down $750,000 to fight Taylor. So Taylor fought Wright instead. Who's a better fighter than both Abraham and Strum. Taylor has ducked no one.Originally Posted by ArawakWarria
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