Ikariam
Ikariam
Pacquaio has to have some of the most annoying fans in any sport. All I've seen in this thread is his nut huggers shoot down anyone who attempts to offer any reason that he won't dominate the fight.. I agree with Taeth on the original premise, that Pac did a lot better in the championship rounds than people tend to say he did.. It's not as though he caught him coming in cold and then after Marquez whethered the storm it was smooth sailing. However he did catch him him cold, it's not as if Marquez isn't capable of weathering Pacqiao's assault. If Marquez saves himself from early punishment and looks to fight smart there's no reason to think he can't win this fight. Saying Marquez is past his best is a pre-packaged excuse from the anti-Pac brigade huh? Or maybe if he isn't at his best, it's because Pac beat his prime right out of him. If he had just got some gel insoles for his shoes Marquez wouldn't even be fighting today, huh? Why the hell even bother to post when you aren't able to entertain another point of view... I haven't heard one of his fans on here break down the fight or explain why Pac will win, other than that he is now supposedly in his prime while Marquez is past his best. But if someone who isn't in love with Pac brings that up, it's an excuse? So lame.
Unless you sat in on the negotiations in person or have recordings your rhetoric is no more speculation than mine. So stop acting as though you are the IT in here. If you read Manila press the blame is on JMM. If you read Mexico city press and it was Pac's fault. Pac is the bigger draw no doubt but JMM is and was the champ then. Up until recent times the champ had the larger draw. There is no shame in wanting the larger purse and respect. I hope JMM wins for this reason alone to make PAC have to wait for a third fight and accept the lower purse. But I really want to see Pac vs Diaz and see how he fares against an extremely offensive and accurate puncher. To see what happens when Pac's foe has as much energy and does not buckle from one of his punches. JMM is unfinished business but it is also business too late. JMM fans will argue he is too late after his loss. ? Just waiting for Pac to have a fight where no doubt exist before a fight. Then he will have my and the haters full attention..
PS.. I am not a JMM or MAB fanatic, no unwarranted references to them is required.
Last edited by Addicted to_boxing; 02-27-2008 at 07:57 AM.
hahaha. try to read the post of those who said that MArquez is past his best.It's GAME saying that and all other pac-haters. Truth is, we were entertaining the point of view of members here who talks with sense but there are just some people who hates Pacquaio and can't listen to reason and explanation....... they are those who claim that we don't explain why Pac would win.
Anyway, as a responsible poster in this forum, I'd like to illuminate you the reasons why Pac will win.
1. Pac has greatly improved. From a one-dimensional fighter, he is becoming all around. Watch how he fought MAB. Do I need to explain that had MAB engaged in an all-out duel with PAcquaio, he would have been KOed early.
2. Pacquiao is faster and stronger than JMM. It's obvious. No need to explain.
3. Pacquaio like Marquez has a big heart.No question about his courage.
4. Regarding skills, he has just won over MAB who was considered to be very skillful.I would rather say, won easily over a very skilled fighter. As you know, skills don't easily get old.
Do I need to add more?
Ikariam
Case settled. Wait until Pacquaio fights Diaz. For the moment, stop making accusations without basis.
It's not like PAcquaio fighting Diaz by just pushing your whimsical button. Big fights need to be negotiated. JMM came first and Diaz can wait. Had PAcquaio opted for Diaz then people would be saying that he ducked JMM. Can you understand what I'm saying?
Patience is a virtue addicted to_boxing. It's one thing that you also need in boxing.
Ikariam
Gee talk about Disneyland (Fantasyland) like fanatics, the EM1 fight was a tough fight but PAC was never in severe danger of being Ko'd. In addition EM was never a power puncher. The head but was also not that severe dreamer. Pac started too late or he would have won that fight too ... Learn the definition of not having ones' heart tested vs tough. Heart tested perfect example see the Pac vs JMM fight. When has Pac had to get up off the canvas, had face brutalized or found himself too far behind on the scorecards and rallied to pull out a fight?
Bruce Bruce Bruce so smart yet so blindly in Love (with Pac)
Bruce I am all for the JMM fight, I also like Pac's 2008 fight plans minus the fight against the lesser Diaz. I do not know where you get that I am not. What accusations am I making in my previous post? You may try researching the meaning of the words you use Dictionary.com
Note: opinions are not accusations.
Nice post Bruce I agree with all but line 1. Pac was not inspired to fight because MAB gave no effort. There was no boxing domination there was a Bull Dog vs a pussy (MAB) MAB was a disgrace and I think Pac let him ride off upright. But boxing domination, sorry no can do!
EM may not be that big puncher but I'm sure he can knock down opponents like David Diaz even past his prime.
Headbutt not severe dreamer? what do you mean by that? AS far as I know (coz I have watched the fight), the cut was so bad that PAcquaio had to bathe in blood all throughout the fight. Watch again their fight.
Learn the definition of not having ones' heart tested vs tough. Heart tested perfect example see the Pac vs JMM fight. When has Pac had to get up off the canvas, had face brutalized or found himself too far behind on the scorecards and rallied to pull out a fight?
So that's your definition of heart?I could accept that.But.......
I'll give you a description (not definition)of having a heart......It's fighting all the way although you know that you may not be able to win that fight. Fighting with only one eye while the other eye is blinded by blood because of a very nasty cut.After that very painful defeat, fighting again that guy(Morales) to win a very convincing KO. That's how I describe having a heart.
Now you should know that I have my reasons to be in love with Pacquaio.....
Too bad you don't have......
I suggest you watch the fight.
Ikariam
Last edited by brucelee; 02-27-2008 at 08:54 AM.
Ikariam
What is wrong with Diaz calling out Pac? As if Pac bowling over lesser weight fighters moving up to challenge Pac was ok? ( Larios and Solis) This this type of hypocrisy is what makes people hate Pac fans and disrepect the accomplishments of Pac. It is ok for Pac, but not others !!!! Pac fanatics would have you believe Phillipine boxing rumors are more ligitimate than those of Latin America or any other circles .... It's crazy man ..........
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