how to counter the counter jab

[Chris Nagel]

When the jab comes, you dip to the right, just enough to slip the punch. It's usually a slight motion when avoiding the jab, but can become more exaggerated to avoid hooks or swings. The move allows you to simultaneously load up on your shots. James Toney is good example of a fighter that would do this. Note you simply can not get the same result by standing square.

If you'd like to explore this idea more, here's are a couple posts by Thomas that go along with this:
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...psey-roll.html

Here are several threads regarding stance:
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...ds-stance.html
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...nding-jab.html
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...ur-stance.html
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...ans-reach.html
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...ey-burley.html

-That's just some things to think about in regards what you can do with your stance.

Anyways, once you have them second guessing themselves about when to jab, you can start leading with your own jabs. Try jabbing from from different angles and elevations. Double and triple your jabs which can deter your opponent from countering.

[jahmez]

Thanks alot man. I'm gonna read through these now. I watched some footage of Griffith. From what I saw looks like he could do everything. Great head movement, smooth relaxed style. You were right about his jab too. I watched him fight Paret and he was landing it nicely. He was using it to get inside too. One exchange he did while Paret was against the ropes was awesome. He just exploded with combos and would then move his head when Paret tried to counter. I love the old fighters they seem so complete.