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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
    Frankie Randall over Julio Cesar Chavez.....

    Ruiz over Holyfield...

    Taylor over Hopkins....
    Randall one is good forgot about him.

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    Default Re: Boxers Who Had Other Boxers Numbers But Wern't As Good

    Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
    Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
    This is debatable but how about

    Gene Tunney vs Jack Dempsey
















    Gene was a DAMN!!! good fighter...Really not that much of an upset that he beat Dempsey...Was when it happened but......Many top experts have Gene on the top 10 all time HW champion list
    I agree Daxx but i thought i would do it see what others think thats why i said its debatable















    Definatly debatable.....If my memory serves me correct one of the most odd things about Tunney is he really did not like being a fighter.....During those times though...if you were tough and could fight======Money!!!!

    Something hard to come by in that era....
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    Default Re: Boxers Who Had Other Boxers Numbers But Wern't As Good

    Saddler beat Willie Pep 3 out of 4.

    Iran Barkley beat Tommy Hearns twice.

    DeJesus didn't have Duran's number, but he did give him the only defeat of the early part of his career.

    Junior Jones beat Barrera twice.


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    Default Re: Boxers Who Had Other Boxers Numbers But Wern't As Good

    james smith vs witherspoon
    holyfiled vs tyson
    douglas vs tyson
    hagler vs hearns
















    calzaghe vs manfredo
    &quot;To see a man beaten not by a better opponent but by himself is a tragety&quot; -Cus D&#039;amato-<br /><br />&quot;I pitty the fool&quot;-clubber lang-<br /><br />&quot;My power is discombobulatingly devastating I could feel is muscle tissues collapse under my force. It&#039;s ludicrous these mortals even attempt to enter my realm&quot;

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR T
    james smith vs witherspoon
    holyfiled vs tyson
    douglas vs tyson
    hagler vs hearns



































    calzaghe vs manfredo




















    Hagler not as good as Hearns.......I am the Biggest Tommy Hearns fan you will find but...Hagler was everything a fighter can be and then some......Hell to this day IMO he beat Leonard


    LOL...Calzaghe Vs Manfredo
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    Default Re: Boxers Who Had Other Boxers Numbers But Wern't As Good

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
    Quote Originally Posted by MR T
    james smith vs witherspoon
    holyfiled vs tyson
    douglas vs tyson
    hagler vs hearns



































    calzaghe vs manfredo




















    Hagler not as good as Hearns.......I am the Biggest Tommy Hearns fan you will find but...Hagler was everything a fighter can be and then some......Hell to this day IMO he beat Leonard


    LOL...Calzaghe Vs Manfredo
    yes hagler was awsome but imo hearns was more skilled and the better technition, his chin failed him....and i scored hagler-leonard...leonard by 1 it was damn close but hagler gave the first 4 rds away and lets not forget leonard was a natural welter and was out of action for 3 years
    &quot;To see a man beaten not by a better opponent but by himself is a tragety&quot; -Cus D&#039;amato-<br /><br />&quot;I pitty the fool&quot;-clubber lang-<br /><br />&quot;My power is discombobulatingly devastating I could feel is muscle tissues collapse under my force. It&#039;s ludicrous these mortals even attempt to enter my realm&quot;

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    Default Re: Boxers Who Had Other Boxers Numbers But Wern't As Good

    Sugar Boy Malinga Vs Nigel Benn.
    Balls

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    Default Re: Boxers Who Had Other Boxers Numbers But Wern't As Good

    riddick bowe and holyfield 1
    freddie norwood vs. jmm any other time jmm would of own him
    jake lamotta and srr
    max smheling vs. joe louis 1
    oscar vs. felix sturm
    vernon forrest vs shane mosely
    castillo vs. pbf 1
    winky vs. tito

    mike anchando on both ktfo lol

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    Why does this thread sound familiar like if I was talking about this just yesterday about fighters having other fighters numbers and oddly enough I think I mentioned Forrest over SSM and Jr Jones over MAB

    I feel like Alice stumbling down the hole?

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    Quote Originally Posted by porkypara
    Sugar Boy Malinga Vs Nigel Benn.
    Well nigel beat him the first outing.. A good fighter was malinga really awkward and tricky and defensive..
    But i think its fair to say that the mclellan fight was the downfall of benn..You couldnt fight the same after that..

    Did you know if benn had have won that he would have got the shot at roy jones!..
    That was the stipulation! that benn beat malinga ..lol Had he won that fight we may have seen one of the most wanted fights around..
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    Default Re: Boxers Who Had Other Boxers Numbers But Wern't As Good

    When it is said that Boxer A has Boxer B's number, it implies that no matter how many times they meet, the outcome of Boxer A beating Boxer B will always be the same and for that to be true, they must have met in the ring more than once. Why are we seeing examples here where there was only one meeting between boxers (i.e. De La Hoya vs. Sturm) or multiple meetings where each fighter holds at least one win over the other (i.e. Holyfield vs. Ruiz)? Forrest vs. Mosely is a great example because they have met more than once and Mosely has not been able to figure Forrest out since their amateur days. However, Forrest hasn't been the same since getting blown out by Mayorga. If you're not impressed with certain boxers, the same can be said about Mayweather vs. Castillo, Mosely vs. Vargas, Arce vs. Hussein and Peter vs. Toney (all were 'more-than-once' encounters and the victors' have all been considered less than worthy, but it all depends on who you ask).

    Edit: Forgot to add the perfect example, Maskaev vs. Rahman.
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    Default Re: Boxers Who Had Other Boxers Numbers But Wern't As Good

    Tarver didn't have jones number. Jones beet him twice(once as an amateur) before Tarver landed a good punch. That can happen to anyone.


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    Default Re: Boxers Who Had Other Boxers Numbers But Wern't As Good

    Thomas Hearns was a great fighter and Iran Barkley was not, but Iran had his number. Somehow the style was just a good matchup for Iran. Norton had Ali's number. Junior Jones had Barrera. Actually a few guys had Barrera's number. Tarver had Jones number.

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    Default Re: Boxers Who Had Other Boxers Numbers But Wern't As Good

    Hatton over tszyu?

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    Default Re: Boxers Who Had Other Boxers Numbers But Wern't As Good

    Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
    This is debatable but how about

    Gene Tunney vs Jack Dempsey
    Not a chance, Tunney for whatever reason is underrated by everyone. He was very hated as a fighter because of his dirty tactics and he had an arrogance about him but he could fight. The unfavorable press has stuck imo. He beat Greb 3 of 4 times in his prime and convincingly at that yet it is all but ignored. Tunney is top 20 ATG imo, where Dempsey is not.

    Mayorga over Forrest is the only one that has sprung to mind of those not mentioned so far.

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