Hey killer
Calzaghes record at 168 should be:35-0 (23)
Jones' record at 168 should be:13-0 (11)
If anyones interested their opponents combined W/L/D at 168
Calzaghe:783-176-23
Jones:321-51-8
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Hey killer
Calzaghes record at 168 should be:35-0 (23)
Jones' record at 168 should be:13-0 (11)
If anyones interested their opponents combined W/L/D at 168
Calzaghe:783-176-23
Jones:321-51-8
The Best There Is, The Best There Was, The Best There Ever Will Be
When Jones fought at 168, he was not only the most dominating fighter of his era, but who I consider one of the top fighters of all time regardless of weight class. He was that good.
Look at you usin words like "former" and "latter", fancy bastard! lol. If its a matter of who would win in their primes, its Roy Jones EASY.
Calzaghe did spend more time there and make it his weightclass for a LONG time though.
Just like how Hopkins made Middleweight his. No one tries to argue that Jones is the greatest MW, so why say he was the greatest SMW?
He was just the GREATEST FIGHTER OF ALL TIME IN ANY WEIGHT CLASS EVER.
Thats enough for me.
"You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"
I think its pretty easy really. Joe Calzaghe has the greatest record at 168, but Jones is the greatest fighter to fight at 168.
Its the same in a lot of divisions. Take 154 for example. Norris and Mcallum may have the greatest records in that division but Hearns was probably a better fighter than both when he fought there.
Jones on talent
Calzaghe on achievements.
I'd have backed Jones to Beat Calzaghe, but i don't think he would smoke him like a few on here have been saying. Calzaghe is too good to get smoked by anyone. I think Calzaghe's work rate would be a potential problem for Jones. But Jones would present many more problems than just workrate.
Imo you can't give someone the number one spot based on assumptions.Sure Jones JNR was shit hot at SMW and probably would have schooled anyone. But you can't deny Calzaghe his rightful claim to the best SMW of all time just because Roy Jones at a couple of years at the weight and looked good beating people up.
10yrs undefeated.Ring champ,Unified champ..huge problems with his hands throughout his career and he came through it by adapting his style as he aged. Unlike Jones Calzaghe does not rely on his athletisicm..he had to change his style over the years...this for me makes you better than just being amazing in your "prime".
Last edited by Tins06; 04-25-2008 at 10:27 AM.
"It wasn't the night of the jab"
i have to bring sven ottka into this again. like joe he made 21 defences, like joe he stayed at home doing so, he even had two bigger belts, WBA, IBF so if calzaghe fans want to call there man the best, svens goto be in this cake
Calzaghe has made more defences of the SM division yes.
As for him beating Roy Jones or James Toney , dont be silly
a 43 year old Hopkins took him to a close verdict ,Lacy and Kessler are nothing compared to Jones and Toney.
Calzaghe spent his prime fighting nobodies.
He is not an all time great , sorry Calzaghe fans but history will tell you this in years to come.
Remember reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol .
I say Roy Jones Jr. He fought the tougher guys. He knocked a man down three times in one round and was never hit. In his prime he was by far the greatest fighter alive. Mayweather does not impress me like Jones Jr did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK8qHnvBo9U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Kx9y...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uwr_WAZw44
Jones clearly has the quicker feet and the more one punch power.
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