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    Default Re: Hatton P4P No1?

    IMO If you beat the P4P Number 1, you surely must become P4P number 1 - how could you not??

    You have proved you are better than P4P Number 1 therefore you must = P4P Number 1
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    Default Re: Hatton P4P No1?

    He beat Kostya who was in the top 5 pound for pound,beat castillo who and i could b wrong was just outside the pond for pound,11 or 12,so if he beats the number 1 then of course he is gonna b number 1......,plus he's undefeated..any1 that begs to differ,either hates hatton or doesnt hav a clue about boxing...

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    Default Re: Hatton P4P No1?

    It depends if you rate Floyd p4p number 1 or not . They say he is universally recognised as such but I cant give him that title cuz of the guys he's fought . Its either Hopkins or Calzaghe . Floyds top 3 but I dont think he can beat Hatton

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    Default Re: Hatton P4P No1?

    floyd is number 1,simple as that,most fans,magazines ,boxers and the boxing community hav him as number 1,so beating him makes u number 1,even if he was number 2 and ricky beat him then i still think he would go up to number 1...i really dont c how any1 can beg to differ...,floyd has never lost and to be the best then u beat the best....

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    Default Re: Hatton P4P No1?

    Quote Originally Posted by fin
    floyd is number 1,simple as that,most fans,magazines ,boxers and the boxing community hav him as number 1,so beating him makes u number 1,even if he was number 2 and ricky beat him then i still think he would go up to number 1...i really dont c how any1 can beg to differ...,floyd has never lost and to be the best then u beat the best....
    Many people thought he lost to a washed up De La Hoya and a limited Castillo.

    Hattons also unbeaten and his stoppage win over Tszyu stands out as more impressive than anyone Floyds beat .

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    Default Re: Hatton P4P No1?

    Ricky wins on sat then he's number 1...

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    Default Re: Hatton P4P No1?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo
    Quote Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob
    Quote Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
    Quote Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob
    He beat Kostya Tzsyu when he was No.1 P4P and if he beats Floyd Mayweather who is the current P4P then there can be no denying Ricky Hatton is the No.1 in the World.
    Tszyu was never P4P number 1, and as for Hatton beating Mayweather he will go to number 2 or 3 i believe.
    Can't see how you can say he was never P4P No.1 as pretty sure he was at the top of the rankings in most respected magazines.
    To my knowledge Tszyu was never in the top 3 p4p. Before Floyd assumed the spot Bernard Hopkins was p4p number 1 and for years before Hopkins took the slot Roy Jones was number 1 according to the ring rankings.

    When Hatton beat Tyszu, Kosta was just about in the top 10, bottom end.

    Hopkins, Barrera, Morales, Mayweather, Coralles, Castillo etc were all rated above Tyszu in the p4p rankings at that time as I recall.
    Kostya was The Ring p4p no.3 when Hatton duffed him up.

    Ring P4P ratings for Period Ended June 1, 2005
    POUND-FOR-POUND
    1. BERNARD HOPKINS
    Middleweight
    2. FLOYD MAYWEATHER
    Junior Welterweight
    3. KOSTYA TSZYU
    Junior Welterweight
    4. WINKY WRIGHT
    Junior Middleweight
    5. MARCO ANTONIO BARRERA
    Junior Lightweight
    6. ERIK MORALES
    Junior Lightweight
    7. MANNY PACQUIAO
    Featherweight
    8. JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ
    Featherweight
    9. DIEGO CORRALES
    Lightweight
    10. GLEN JOHNSON
    Light Heavyweight
    for the list Fenster, i'm suprsied J M Marquez was on the list back then I thought he didn't really become a p4p star until the Barrera win. Also Glen Johnson at number 10. I guess it must have been following his win over Tarver but still I would never have considered Johnson a p4p star at any time.

    Presumably Jones had already suffered his KO losses by June 05 hence him not being anywhere in the top 10?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    It depends if you rate Floyd p4p number 1 or not . They say he is universally recognised as such but I cant give him that title cuz of the guys he's fought . Its either Hopkins or Calzaghe . Floyds top 3 but I dont think he can beat Hatton
    Calzaghe has fought 1 good opponent in 44 and you say he is P4P number 1 , No can do.

    CC fin that view was perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo
    Quote Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob
    Quote Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
    Quote Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob
    He beat Kostya Tzsyu when he was No.1 P4P and if he beats Floyd Mayweather who is the current P4P then there can be no denying Ricky Hatton is the No.1 in the World.
    Tszyu was never P4P number 1, and as for Hatton beating Mayweather he will go to number 2 or 3 i believe.
    Can't see how you can say he was never P4P No.1 as pretty sure he was at the top of the rankings in most respected magazines.
    To my knowledge Tszyu was never in the top 3 p4p. Before Floyd assumed the spot Bernard Hopkins was p4p number 1 and for years before Hopkins took the slot Roy Jones was number 1 according to the ring rankings.

    When Hatton beat Tyszu, Kosta was just about in the top 10, bottom end.

    Hopkins, Barrera, Morales, Mayweather, Coralles, Castillo etc were all rated above Tyszu in the p4p rankings at that time as I recall.
    Kostya was The Ring p4p no.3 when Hatton duffed him up.

    Ring P4P ratings for Period Ended June 1, 2005
    POUND-FOR-POUND
    1. BERNARD HOPKINS
    Middleweight
    2. FLOYD MAYWEATHER
    Junior Welterweight
    3. KOSTYA TSZYU
    Junior Welterweight
    4. WINKY WRIGHT
    Junior Middleweight
    5. MARCO ANTONIO BARRERA
    Junior Lightweight
    6. ERIK MORALES
    Junior Lightweight
    7. MANNY PACQUIAO
    Featherweight
    8. JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ
    Featherweight
    9. DIEGO CORRALES
    Lightweight
    10. GLEN JOHNSON
    Light Heavyweight
    nice one Fenster....

    as WelshDevilRob has remembered...... he was no1 around that time on a few lists... all the oz sites rated him at no one and i remember one american site that had him at no 1 was boxing talk... just before Hatton beat him

    i can prove it if needed but really CBA'd to

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H
    IMO If you beat the P4P Number 1, you surely must become P4P number 1 - how could you not??

    You have proved you are better than P4P Number 1 therefore you must = P4P Number 1
    If Hatton wins, he has to be No.1. It would be possible to beat the No.1 and not become No.1 yourself, like say if the No.1 went up a division to far and fought a big guy (if ODLH had beaten PBF in a close contest or by overpowering him, I wouldn't have considered him No.1).

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    Default Re: Hatton P4P No1?

    If he beats number 1 he should become number 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob
    He beat Kostya Tzsyu when he was No.1 P4P and if he beats Floyd Mayweather who is the current P4P then there can be no denying Ricky Hatton is the No.1 in the World.



    Can't say I ever remember Kostya being number 1 P4P.....#1 at 140 but not P4P
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    Default Re: Hatton P4P No1?

    Quote Originally Posted by Saddo
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo
    Quote Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob
    Quote Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
    Quote Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob
    He beat Kostya Tzsyu when he was No.1 P4P and if he beats Floyd Mayweather who is the current P4P then there can be no denying Ricky Hatton is the No.1 in the World.
    Tszyu was never P4P number 1, and as for Hatton beating Mayweather he will go to number 2 or 3 i believe.
    Can't see how you can say he was never P4P No.1 as pretty sure he was at the top of the rankings in most respected magazines.
    To my knowledge Tszyu was never in the top 3 p4p. Before Floyd assumed the spot Bernard Hopkins was p4p number 1 and for years before Hopkins took the slot Roy Jones was number 1 according to the ring rankings.

    When Hatton beat Tyszu, Kosta was just about in the top 10, bottom end.

    Hopkins, Barrera, Morales, Mayweather, Coralles, Castillo etc were all rated above Tyszu in the p4p rankings at that time as I recall.
    Kostya was The Ring p4p no.3 when Hatton duffed him up.

    Ring P4P ratings for Period Ended June 1, 2005
    POUND-FOR-POUND
    1. BERNARD HOPKINS
    Middleweight
    2. FLOYD MAYWEATHER
    Junior Welterweight
    3. KOSTYA TSZYU
    Junior Welterweight
    4. WINKY WRIGHT
    Junior Middleweight
    5. MARCO ANTONIO BARRERA
    Junior Lightweight
    6. ERIK MORALES
    Junior Lightweight
    7. MANNY PACQUIAO
    Featherweight
    8. JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ
    Featherweight
    9. DIEGO CORRALES
    Lightweight
    10. GLEN JOHNSON
    Light Heavyweight
    nice one Fenster....

    as WelshDevilRob has remembered...... he was no1 around that time on a few lists... all the oz sites rated him at no one and i remember one american site that had him at no 1 was boxing talk... just before Hatton beat him

    i can prove it if needed but really CBA'd to
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    Default Re: Hatton P4P No1?

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME
    It depends if you rate Floyd p4p number 1 or not . They say he is universally recognised as such but I cant give him that title cuz of the guys he's fought . Its either Hopkins or Calzaghe. Floyds top 3 but I dont think he can beat Hatton
    Thats a contradiction if I ever saw one.

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    Default Re: Hatton P4P No1?

    If Hatton beats Floyd, I'd have to wait for Pacquiao-Marquez to make a clear call.

    If Pacquiao clearly beats Marquez, I think you have to put Pac at #1 over Hatton.

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