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    Default Most un-dedicated fighters?

    Everyone is always talking about fighters who are/were crazy dedicated, gym rats who always came in ready and in shape (like Evander Holyfield), but lets talk about people on the opposite side of the spectrum. Who are the lazy, albeit very talented fighters who wouldn't put in 100% in the gym, relying mainly just on their talents?

    Some that come to mind for me are...

    James Toney
    Ricky Hatton
    Francisco Bojado

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    Hatton put 150% in the Gym. Outside of it was when he struggled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Hatton put 150% in the Gym. Outside of it was when he struggled.
    IMO that goes hand in hand, if you balloon up to 200+ lbs out of fight time when you fight at 140, it just restricts your training camp to focus more on weight loss rather than actual skill training for the specific fight, Ricky would pretty much go to fat camp when getting ready for a fight.

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    Default Re: Most un-dedicated fighters?

    another fighter that comes to mind is Juanma Lopez, who cut his career short by blowing up in weight between fights and then not full dedicating himself to his craft and only relying on his power that didn't make up for his punch resistance that faded quickly due to his bad training habits and blows taken in fights

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    Default Re: Most un-dedicated fighters?

    Not-Dedicated

    * James 'Buster' Douglas always had 'motivational' issues.

    * Joe Louis went thru spells of 'lackadaisical efforts'.

    * Ron Lyle was inherently lazy at periods during his career.

    * Gerry Cooney was lacking in intestinal fortitude.

    * Max Baer was a funny sort, who got by on his punching power alone.

    * Ingemar Johansson was 'A Playboy'.

    * Ray Mercer just didn't like to train.

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    Corrie Sanders....dude could have been GREAT if he was not on the golf course so often. The power he had, the speed, he was very impressive in those regards.

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    James Toney.
    David Lemieux = Future MW Champ and P4P King

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    James Toney.
    "I agree. James Toney just doesn't know how to walk away from a Buffet table."

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    Riddick Bowe
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    Default Re: Most un-dedicated fighters?

    this will seem like blasphemy, but at one point Arturo Gatti? I mean he himself said that there was a stage in his career (I think prior to his fights against Ward) that he would hardly train and that he spent too much time out partying and drinking

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    Default Re: Most un-dedicated fighters?

    Chavez Jr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Chavez Jr.
    nah, I said talented fighters not spoiled brats with a privileged last name

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    Default Re: Most un-dedicated fighters?

    Dedication doesn't solely apply to training. A lot of fighters simply refused to expand their skillset.

    Jermaine Taylor
    Kelly Pavlik

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepwalker View Post
    Dedication doesn't solely apply to training. A lot of fighters simply refused to expand their skillset.

    Jermaine Taylor
    Kelly Pavlik
    but again, Pavlik and Taylor would both balloon up in weight, and Pavlik was a know alcoholic, on top of what you just mentioned, but at least Taylor made a half assed effort in trying to expand by picking up Steward as his trainer, even though he never bothered to try and actually learn something from him despite the fact that his style should have been a perfect fit for it, excellent long stiff jab, good right hand and a good uppercut, but he was well as the thread states, lazy

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    Pavlik always had that trailer park trash look about himself. He must have really been draining a lot of fifths for it to affect his boxing career.

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