25 years since the biggest upset in boxing history...

[Greig]

Christ, has it been that long. I feel old...

Wrote this at work today, and can't recommend Joe Leyden's book The Last Great Fight enough - it's a smashing read!

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[SugarBoxing]

Christ, has it been that long. I feel old...

Wrote this at work today, and can't recommend Joe Leyden's book The Last Great Fight enough - it's a smashing read!

25 years since the biggest upset in boxing history | The New Daily

Tyson vs Douglas?

[Greig]

Yep - Tyson v Douglas. Seriously mate, Joe Layden's book is a terrific read. Thoroughly researched, interviews with both guys, and some really good writing.

Obviously it wasn't the last great fight, but I can kind of see his point. Once Tyson was no longer invincible it was the end of an era, even though he won titles again.

I'd say he never carried a similar air of menace, but that's just not true. In fact, after the Douglas fight I'd say his menace actually increased, weird as that sounds. After Tillman, Stewart and Ruddock (twice) he went to prison and was actually more intimidating to a lot of people. After prison he had Seldon and Bruno 2, both of whom were genuinely terrified, before Holyfield finally stripped away his menace.

[SugarBoxing]

Yep - Tyson v Douglas. Seriously mate, Joe Layden's book is a terrific read. Thoroughly researched, interviews with both guys, and some really good writing.

Obviously it wasn't the last great fight, but I can kind of see his point. Once Tyson was no longer invincible it was the end of an era, even though he won titles again.

I'd say he never carried a similar air of menace, but that's just not true. In fact, after the Douglas fight I'd say his menace actually increased, weird as that sounds. After Tillman, Stewart and Ruddock (twice) he went to prison and was actually more intimidating to a lot of people. After prison he had Seldon and Bruno 2, both of whom were genuinely terrified, before Holyfield finally stripped away his menace.

The more I think about the more I realize I do not really miss Mike Tyson as a person,

I miss the unqiue menacing boxer equipped with unseen before technique, super crisp punches
and the bad intentions to break the opponent's ribs. The guy who fought Douglas in that fight did not really match the description anymore. In fact, the description was more suitable to Douglas.

[Greig]

Agreed NVSemin.

I rewatched the fight a couple of years back and was astounded by how aggressive Douglas was - pushing Tyson back, whacking him on the break heaps of times. He really did a number on him.

[Beanflicker]

The big debate has always been whether it was a great performance by Douglas or just Mike Tyson not training and not being in shape. I think it was a perfect storm of both: one guy not giving a shit and not taking it seriously, and another guy taking it more seriously than he ever did and elevating himself to a level he hadn't been to previously or even after, for that matter.

Not only to beat Tyson at that point, but to bully him and knock him out is unbelievable.

[beenKOed]

It was a shocker!

[Greig]

You also kind of have to hand it to Tyson - he took his first two losses like a trooper. He was beat to hell and still wanted to go on with it in both the Douglas and first Holyfield fights. He went up in my estimation there.

Then, of course, came ear-gate and the rest is a pretty dismal history...

[SlimTrae]

My uncle told me how Liston had that same aura of invincibility. Same with Forman. Once Liston was beat by Clay & Forman by Ali- he said he was told by his elders: watch them fall to the bottom.

Post- prison- McNeely, why? To my surprise Peter was throwing his ass off, not afraid at all... Looking back @ this Peter was NOT afraid. 2:10 in watch Peter push Tyson back like a rag doll- Tyson's timing off- Buster Mathis? WHY? This blob of a fighter pushed Tyson back to the ropes & look how HORRIBLE Tyson's timing was off. Only one to fear Tyson was Frank Bruno. Everyone else who had a pulse, thought otherwise.

[El Kabong]

It was a shocker!

Absolutely, Tyson went from superhuman wrecking machine to looking very very average in a matter of rounds. It was just amazing....Tyson still looked like himself, but the things he was used to doing in the ring just didn't work that night. It was like when RJJ got beat by Glen Johnson, sure everyone remembers the big KO loss to Tarver but to see an all time GREAT be reduced to ordinary round after round after round.....it was tough to watch for Tyson fans but also so intriguing at the same time, like a car wreck with everyone rubbernecking

[Mark TKO]

25 years ago !!!

my god I'm old

Mandela got out about six hours after Tyson got kayoed


The Sun ran a split headline the day after covering the two stories - Down and Out

Was looking for the front page photo online but can't find

[Greig]

SlimTrae,

Bruce Seldon was scared too.

McNeeley threw plenty, but judging by his staredown, he may have been feeling a bit apprehensive.

Mathis though, you are right, was very composed.

[Bill Paxtom]

Can't argue with this,

It would be hard-pressed to find a bigger upset, with a more shocking result.

[Master]

Ali beating Foreman or Liston were big too.

[Mark TKO]

Ali beating Foreman or Liston were big too.

cheers for that - none of us knew