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    Default Austin vs. Klitchko: The Breakdown


    According to the IBF rules, Wlad Klitschko must now face his mandatory challenger, Ray Austin. If this fight does take place, will it be a repeat of the Brock blow out. Let's break it down.

    Size: Austin stands at 6 feet 6 inches and weighed 245 pounds before his last bout. This means he will see eye to eye with Klitschko and may very well weigh more than the Ukrainian PhD when they step into the ring. The Rainman has an 80' reach while Dr. Steel hammer has an 81' span. Both are 6'6'. The size issue appears a wash, though Klitchko's body is firmer and more muscular. His elongated muscles make for great jackhammer type power. Edge to Klit based on his superior physique.

    Record: Austin: 24 -3 -4 (16 ko's). Wladimir 47 - 3 (42 ko's) with a great ko percentage of 84%. Many of Ray's stoppages have come by way of TKO whereas the Ukrainian's have been clean one-punch icings. Big edge to Klit.

    Klitchko was an Olympic Gold Medal winner. Austin wasa tough street fighter from Cleveland. Enough said.

    Quality of Opposition: Clear edge for Klitchko as most of Ray's big fights have ended in draws. Harold Sconiers beat Austin in a six rounder by UD on November 2, 2006. Austin then lost only once more in his next thirteen fights and went on to become a top contender fighting at the top level of his division. The once promising Sconiers, however, proceeded to hit a sharp detour, losing ten consecutive bouts, his last being to Romanian Claudio Rasco in Montreal by TKO in 2005. A perfect example of hitting another kind of intersect or detour in which one fighter loses but really wins and the other wins but really loses.

    If a won-lost tally of Klitchko's opponents were done, the results would be absolutely astounding. Most of his opponents had outstanding records coming in. Axel Schulz Phil Jackson, Cody Koch, Chris Byrd, Jameel McCline, Derrick Jefferson. Danell Nicholson, Eliseo Castillo, Samuel Peter and many more.

    Common Opponents: None

    Style: Manny Steward has created a killing machine. Having watched The big Ukrainian dispatch Bryd and Brock in brutal fashion, I now believe "Dr. Steel Hammer" has become a Killer Robot. He uses a simple recipe. Figure out your opponent's style, adjust accordingly, shift into automatic and execute. This usually means punishing jabs with increasing volume and then a straight sledgehammer right down the pipe. Sometimes a nice hook, preferably to the body, is thrown in to keep his opponent off stride. Wlad's one-two is outstanding and his ability to keep his opponents away by using his superior size is improving as well, though he sometimes has a habit of clinching too much. If he does clinch, he should use it as an opportunity to do some damaging body work.

    Austin trys to emulate Larry Holmes by setting himself and using decent jabs. However, for a big man, he lacks the kind of power you would expect. He is not afraid to mix it up and stays in the fight for the full 10 or 12 rounds. Like Klit, he has good focus.

    Big edge in power to the Doctor and big overall edge in style to him as well.

    Chin: A wash. Both have been decked; both have been stopped.

    AGE: Klit is 31, Ray is 36. But Klit is fairly old in ring age.

    Conditioning and stamina: Both fighters will be fit and ready. Questions still linger about Klitchko but I think his fight with Peter answered them. If anything, Austin's stamina may come into play depending upon how much early pressure is put on him.

    Intangibles: Ray makes up for his lack of technical skills with grit, determination and heart. He will come into this fight in great shape, for it is his one and only shot at the brass ring and he knows it. Klit must fight overconfidence and Manny should be able to keep him inside himself. One thing, based on the Bock fight, Klitchko needs a better cut man in his corner.

    The symbiosis with Manny gets better with each fight. Romeo Connors works well with Ray but he is no Steward.

    I see a wash here.


    Outcome: Dr. Steel Hammer will feel out the plodding, one dimensional Austin early and then come up with his plan of execution which will be to pick up the pace in the 3rd and 4rth with an increasing number of stiff jabs and an occasional straight right and maybe a hook thrown in for good measure. But Austin will surprise Klitchko with his gameness and aggressiveness and make the fight competitive until the jabs start slowing him down. He will stun Klit with a right of his own, but the big Ukrainian will fight through it.

    Klit will then begin executing his plan by greatly increasing the number and intensity of jabs in the 5th (maybe even up to sixty) softening up and slowing down Ray. In the 6th and final round, Wlad will execute. His high volume of punishing jabs will take a terrible toll on the Rainman and he will not see the brutal right coming down the middle. When it lands, the fight will be over.

    An exciting fight for as long as it lasts.


    “I’m not Calvin Brock,......I’m not a 213-pound Chris Byrd, either. I’m a full-grown heavyweight. The last time Klitschko faced a man his weight was against Samuel Peter, who knocked him down three times while giving away five inches in height. Same thing when Lamon Brewster knocked him out. I guarantee some rain is going to fall on Klitschko when we fight.” Ray Austin




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    Default Re: Austin vs. Klitchko: The Breakdown

    people call kiltchko klit and im sorry if im late but is that meant as an insult?

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    Default Re: Austin vs. Klitchko: The Breakdown

    Absolutley not.

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    Default Re: Austin vs. Klitchko: The Breakdown

    Excellent breakdown. All bases covered.

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    Default Re: Austin vs. Klitchko: The Breakdown

    Ted The Bull, how do you see Peter-Toney?

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    Default Re: Austin vs. Klitchko: The Breakdown

    Ray Austin is very robotic, he keeps his chin in the air and hand low .. Klitchko gonna knock him out inside a few rounds ! easy win for Wlad in my opinion.. ! Ray's best chance is to run out there quick and try and catch him cold ! once Wlad settles in, easy win !

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    Default Re: Austin vs. Klitchko: The Breakdown

    "Blah blah blah im a big bad full grown heavyweight with 4 draws in under 50 fights"

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    Default Re: Austin vs. Klitchko: The Breakdown

    IWO, Ray's an unproven chump & Wlad's chin aint that big of a question mark.

    Stamina yes...but Wlad has only been knocked out twice in 50 fights. Sanders has only legitly knocked himout. He gassed against Brewster & Puritty & his corner toweled him out against Puritty.

    Wlad's a lot better than people give him credit for being & Ray's a lot worse than anyone will admit.

    Also, in comparison...Erik Morales is known as a warrior with a fantastic chin & he's been knocked out twice. Something to think about.




























































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    Default Re: Austin vs. Klitchko: The Breakdown

    Mismatch, pointless mismatch.

    Austin sucks, Wlad, even though I dislike him, doesn't.

    Honestly from watching Austin a couple times I think Wlad would actually have to try to miss a right hand on him. He's just right there for the right whenever Wlad wants to throw it, this ends when Wlad wants it to.

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    Default Re: Austin vs. Klitchko: The Breakdown

    I would gladly say how bad he is but i can't find an appropriate word in the english dictionary. Wlad's chin is suspect. He can take what austin has without a problem, imo. Isn't austin like 6'2? and hes a southpaw and the last southpaw wlad fought he probably retired. (See chris byrd. For chris byrd, See blown up cruiserweight who was gifted two titles)

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    Default Re: Austin vs. Klitchko: The Breakdown

    Quote Originally Posted by HMSARES
    Ted The Bull, how do you see Peter-Toney?

    Too close to call.

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    Default Re: Austin vs. Klitchko: The Breakdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Punisher136
    I would gladly say how bad he is but i can't find an appropriate word in the english dictionary. Wlad's chin is suspect. He can take what austin has without a problem, imo. Isn't austin like 6'2? and hes a southpaw and the last southpaw wlad fought he probably retired. (See chris byrd. For chris byrd, See blown up cruiserweight who was gifted two titles)
    No. Austin is 6'6 and weighs more than Wlad

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    Default Re: Austin vs. Klitchko: The Breakdown

    imo, this will end quicker than the brock and byrd fights. austin is a decent and somewhat-talented HW, but hes not in wlads league.

    wlad KO 5.

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    Default Re: Austin vs. Klitchko: The Breakdown

    Actually the last time Wladimir faced someone as big as Ray he humiliated Jameel McCline for 10 rounds finally dropping "Big Nervous" McCline and stopping the fight.

    I could see Wladimir looking past Austin but Ray doesn't have the power to take advantage of that....or the chin to weather the storm of Wlad's power punches.

    No doubt Wlad wanted Maskaev but he'll come to win vs Ray and I see a HUGE KO in Ray Austin's future....just be sure to remind him about it once he wakes up

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    Default Re: Austin vs. Klitchko: The Breakdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    Actually the last time Wladimir faced someone as big as Ray he humiliated Jameel McCline for 10 rounds finally dropping "Big Nervous" McCline and stopping the fight.

    I could see Wladimir looking past Austin but Ray doesn't have the power to take advantage of that....or the chin to weather the storm of Wlad's power punches.

    No doubt Wlad wanted Maskaev but he'll come to win vs Ray and I see a HUGE KO in Ray Austin's future....just be sure to remind him about it once he wakes up
    Yea, I see Wlad knocking him out in about the third round.
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