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    I see Charles had the great Burleys number by looks of it but they were all by decision did Burley deserve any of the decision against Charles if you can remember Scrap thanks.

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    As i remember the press made Burley the winner in the 2nd one both close but ezzard had 8 lbs, having said that Charles was 19 Burley was having hand problems at the time and had boxed a lot that year Make no mistake Charles was an all time great always giving weight away himself.
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    As i remember the press made Burley the winner in the 2nd one both close but ezzard had 8 lbs, having said that Charles was 19 Burley was having hand problems at the time and had boxed a lot that year Make no mistake Charles was an all time great always giving weight away himself.
    Thanks for info Scrap

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    Controversially, even though he never won a world title at the weight, I reckon Ezzard Charles was the best light-heavy who ever lived.

    At the time, LH was a graveyard division, with no big names and no big purses - that's why there were many smaller guys fighting at heavyweight than at the light-heavy limit. The great Archie Moore was soundly beaten by Charles on a number of occasions and I also think that the Cincinnati Cobra gave Marciano all the problems that he could handle in their first fight.

    We talk a lot abut people like Larry Holmes being underrated, but Ezzard was cruelly underrated as a heavyweight (never mind a light-heavy!!)
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    Theres an arguement that Ezzard was best at middle X. Its the old arguement of when fighters reach their peak, with good matchmaking it can be an illusion.
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    Controversially, even though he never won a world title at the weight, I reckon Ezzard Charles was the best light-heavy who ever lived.

    At the time, LH was a graveyard division, with no big names and no big purses - that's why there were many smaller guys fighting at heavyweight than at the light-heavy limit. The great Archie Moore was soundly beaten by Charles on a number of occasions and I also think that the Cincinnati Cobra gave Marciano all the problems that he could handle in their first fight.

    We talk a lot abut people like Larry Holmes being underrated, but Ezzard was cruelly underrated as a heavyweight (never mind a light-heavy!!)
    Just watched the Charles-Marciano 1 again last night on ESPN Classic. Charles hung in there like a true warrior. Rocky was a bit too much, but I don't underestimate Ezzard.One of the best ever. Especially since I'm from Cinci.

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    People should read up on this guy its the whose who of the 40s he should have packed up after Louis with the desease that would kill him started as a middle and won the big one the hard way. When he boxed Marciano he was a shell of himself deffinatly a top ten ATG all the Boxing dont want him brigade he took them all on and won. Giving chunks of weight away in the process a great fighter.
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    People should read up on this guy its the whose who of the 40s he should have packed up after Louis with the desease that would kill him started as a middle and won the big one the hard way. When he boxed Marciano he was a shell of himself deffinatly a top ten ATG all the Boxing dont want him brigade he took them all on and won. Giving chunks of weight away in the process a great fighter.
    Didn't know about all that thanks for info again Scrap cc in 24.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap
    People should read up on this guy its the whose who of the 40s he should have packed up after Louis with the desease that would kill him started as a middle and won the big one the hard way. When he boxed Marciano he was a shell of himself deffinatly a top ten ATG all the Boxing dont want him brigade he took them all on and won. Giving chunks of weight away in the process a great fighter.
    I heard of that, I think he was an excellent fighter. There's a lot to be learned about watching Charles fights.

    Regarding Burley he was an excellent fighter himself, very unpredicable, he'd lead with either hand, and attacked unexpected angles. Robinson was adament that he didn't want to fight him, and Archie Moore probably wouldn't have fought him if things didn't happen like they did. Imagine what fans would be talking if has Charles Burley had a decisive UD over Sugar Ray Robinson.
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    Up to the end of 48 p&p he was the best fighter on the planet when beating louis he was only a light heavy, he had it all.
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