Marquez moves up to Number 2 On Ring's P4P Rankings.

[Pugilistic]

http://www.thering-online.com/ringpages/ratings2.html

Does he belong at number 2 ?





Personally i feel him going up was a good move.

Marquez's TKO win over 37 year old Casamayor >>>>>Calzaghe's close SD win over 43 year Hopkins.

You could argue that Casamayor was on the downslide as he won a very questionable decision over Cruz and was almost beat by Katsidis while Hopkins had just had two wins over top fighters Tarver and Wright who were in the P4P rankings but Marquez's performance against Casamayor was a better performance than what calzaghe put on against Hopkins. Plus Marquez is the first man to stop Casamayor.

[Fenster]

He moves up one spot on Fenster's list as well. Second to first by way of Joan Guzman getting booted out for inactivity and unprofessionalism.

1. Marquez
2. Pac
3. Calzaghe

Fact.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

He moves up one spot on Fenster's list as well. Second to first by way of Joan Guzman getting booted out for inactivity and unprofessionalism.

1. Marquez
2. Pac
3. Calzaghe

Fact.

It's tough... I think Calzaghe and Marquez both have a bid for it.

IMHO I think Marquez has fought the more timely opposition then Joe C. Not to take anything away from Calzaghe... Just the way I feel. So yes.

1.Pac
2.Marquez
3.Calzaghe

[ICB]

He moves up one spot on Fenster's list as well. Second to first by way of Joan Guzman getting booted out for inactivity and unprofessionalism.

1. Marquez
2. Pac
3. Calzaghe

Fact.

I also think Marquez should be number 1 because i think he beat Pacquiao twice but i also think Calzaghe shouldn't be 3 because i had him just losing the Hopkins fight.

[piye]

I think Hopkins is a P4P better fighter than Casamayor even now but I'd still say JMM is P4P better than Joe.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

I think Hopkins is a P4P better fighter than Casamayor even now but I'd still say JMM is P4P better than Joe.

Compare this to Joe C's opp in the past 4 years. But Joe C also didn't lose to his lesser opposition where Marquez did a few times(not to lesser opp)... some VERY arguably


2008-09-13135Joel Casamayor13536-3-1MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada, United StatesWTKO1112~ time: 2:55 | referee: Tony Weeks | judge: Glenn Feldman 97-93 | judge: Patricia Morse Jarman 95-95 | judge: Paul Smith 95-95 ~
2008-03-15130Manny Pacquiao12945-3-2Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada, United StatesLSD1212~ referee: Kenny Bayless | judge: Duane Ford 112-115 | judge: Jerry Roth 115-112 | judge: Tom Miller 113-114 ~
~ WBC super featherweight title ~
2007-11-03128Rocky Juarez12927-3-0Desert Diamond Casino, Tucson, Arizona, United StatesWUD1212~ referee: Robert Ferrara | judge: Chris Wilson 120-108 | judge: Robin Dolpierre 118-110 | judge: Burt Clements 117-111 ~
~ WBC super featherweight title ~
2007-03-17129Marco Antonio Barrera13063-4-0Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada, United StatesWUD1212~ referee: Jay Nady | judge: Patricia Morse Jarman 116-111 | judge: Paul Smith 116-111 | judge: Doug Tucker 118-109 ~
~ WBC super featherweight title ~
2006-11-25124½Jimrex Jaca123¾27-2-1Dodge Arena, Hidalgo, Texas, United StatesWKO912~ time: 2:48 | referee: Laurence Cole | judge: Ruben Garcia, Dr. 80-72 | judge: Levi Martinez 80-72 | judge: Rocky Burke 80-72 ~
~ interim WBO featherweight title ~
2006-08-05124½Terdsak Jandaeng12524-1-0Montbleu Resort & Spa, Stateline, Nevada, United StatesWTKO712~ time: 1:13 | referee: Jay Nady | judge: Doug Tucker 60-51 | judge: Duane Ford 59-51 | judge: Michael Pernick 59-52 ~
~ interim WBO featherweight title ~
2006-03-04125Chris John12536-0-1Karang Melenu Sports Hall, Tenggarong, Kutai Kartanegara, IndonesiaLUD1212~ referee: Guillermo Perez Pineda | judge: Oscar Perez U.S.A. 110-116 | judge: Takeshi Shimakawa 111-117 | judge: Pinit Prayadsab 112-116 ~
~ WBA featherweight title ~
Marquez's scores were deducted twice for repeated low blows in rounds 10 and 11.
2005-05-07125Victor Polo12637-4-3Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada, United StatesWUD1212~ referee: Richard Steele | judge: Fred Steinwinder III 119-108 | judge: Tom Schreck 118-109 | judge: Adalaide Byrd 120-107 ~
~ WBA featherweight title ~
~ IBF featherweight title ~
2004-09-18126Orlando Salido12623-8-2MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada, United StatesWUD1212~ referee: Tony Weeks | judge: Duane Ford 118-110 | judge: Raul Caiz 117-111 | judge: Glen Hamada 117-111 ~
~ WBA featherweight title ~
~ IBF featherweight title ~
2004-05-08125Manny Pacquiao12538-2-1MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada, United StatesDPTS1212~ referee: Joe Cortez | judge: John Stewart 110-115 | judge: Burt Clements 113-113 | judge: Guy Jutras 115-110 ~
~ WBA featherweight title ~
~ IBF featherweight title ~
Marquez down three times in 1st.
2003-11-01125½Derrick Gainer12639-5-1Van Andel Arena, Grand Rapids, Michigan, United StatesWTD712~ time: 2:37 | referee: Luis Pabon | judge: Dave Hess 70-63 | judge: Steve Tarnow 70-63 | judge: John Parish 69-64 ~
~ WBA featherweight title ~
~ IBF featherweight title ~
2003-08-16132Marcos Licona133½21-3-1Mohegan Sun Casino, Uncasville, Connecticut, United StatesWRTD910~ time: 3:00 | referee: Dick Flaherty | judge: Clark Sammartino 90-80 | judge: Tom Kaczmarek 90-80 | judge: Julie Lederman 90-80 ~
2003-02-01125½Manuel Medina12560-12-0Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada, United StatesWTKO712~ time: 1:18 | referee: Robert Byrd ~
~ vacant IBF featherweight title ~
2002-06-21126Hector Javier Marquez12626-8-0Orleans Hotel & Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada, United StatesWTKO1010~ time: 0:28 | referee: Joe Cortez ~
2002-03-09125Robbie Peden12520-1-0AJ Palumbo Center, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, United StatesWRTD1012~ time: 3:00 | referee: Rick Steigerwald | judge: Dana DePaolo | judge: Paul Silverman | judge: Peter Trematerra ~
~ NABF featherweight title ~
~ vacant USBA featherweight title ~
IBF Featherweight Title Eliminator

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

dateLbopponentLbW - L - Dlast 6location2008-04-19173Bernard Hopkins17348-4-1Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, Nevada, United StatesWSD1212~ referee: Joe Cortez | judge: Ted Gimza 115-112 | judge: Adalaide Byrd 113-114 | judge: Chuck Giampa 116-111 ~
Calzaghe down in the 1st.
2007-11-03166½Mikkel Kessler16839-0-0Millennium Stadium, Cardiff, Wales, United KingdomWUD1212x3~ referee: Mike Ortega | judge: Raul Caiz 117-111 | judge: John Stewart 116-112 | judge: Massimo Barrovecchio 116-112 ~
~ WBA super middleweight title ~
~ WBC super middleweight title ~
~ WBO super middleweight title ~
2007-04-07167¾Peter Manfredo Jr16626-3-0Millennium Stadium, Cardiff, Wales, United KingdomWTKO312x3~ time: 1:30 | referee: Terry O'Connor | judge: Harry Davis | judge: Jose H. Rivera | judge: Andre Van Grootenbruel ~
~ WBO super middleweight title ~
2006-10-14168Sakio Bika16820-1-2M.E.N. Arena, Manchester, Lancashire, United KingdomWUD1212x3~ referee: Mickey Vann | judge: Jose Rivera 117-110 | judge: John Lawson 117-110 | judge: Phil Edwards 116-111 ~
~ IBF super middleweight title ~
~ WBO super middleweight title ~
2006-03-04168Jeff Lacy16721-0-0M.E.N. Arena, Manchester, Lancashire, United KingdomWUD1212x3~ referee: Raul Caiz | judge: Nelson Vazquez 119-105 | judge: Roy Francis 119-107 | judge: Adalaide Byrd 119-107 ~
~ IBF super middleweight title ~
~ WBO super middleweight title ~
Calzaghe deducted 1 point in round 11 for punching round Lacy's back during a break
Lacy down in the 12th round.
2005-09-10167½Evans Ashira16624-1-0International Arena, Cardiff, Wales, United KingdomWUD1212x3~ referee: Mark Nelson | judge: Renato Caddeo 120-107 | judge: Henk Adriaansen 120-108 | judge: Paul Thomas 120-108 ~
~ WBO super middleweight title ~
2005-05-07167½Mario Veit167½45-1-0Volkswagenhalle, Braunschweig, Niedersachsen, GermanyWTKO612~ time: 0:42 | referee: Genaro Rodriguez | judge: Joachim Jacobsen 50-44 | judge: Tom Miller 50-44 | judge: Melvina Lathan 50-44 ~
~ WBO super middleweight title ~
2004-10-22168Kabary Salem167¾23-3-0Royal Highland Showground, Edinburgh, Scotland, United KingdomWUD1212x3~ referee: Paul Thomas | judge: Renato Caddeo 117-109 | judge: Frank Cairo 118-107 | judge: Manuel Oliver Palomo 116-109 ~
~ WBO super middleweight title ~
Calzaghe down in 4th; Salem down in 12th.
Salem penalized one point in Round 3, Calzaghe one point in Round 11, both for intentional headbutting.
2004-02-21167½Mger Mkrtchian167½18-1-0National Ice Rink, Cardiff, Wales, United KingdomWTKO712x3

[kingfrnk]

He moves up one spot on Fenster's list as well. Second to first by way of Joan Guzman getting booted out for inactivity and unprofessionalism.

1. Marquez
2. Pac
3. Calzaghe

Fact.

I also think Marquez should be number 1 because i think he beat Pacquiao twice but i also think Calzaghe shouldn't be 3 because i had him just losing the Hopkins fight.

It really dont matter who you think won what matters is who won and that was pacman but you are right about calzaghe he should 5 or something and if anything kelly should be ahead of bhop. its doesnt matter hel be up there in a month

[Hoggmeister]

yeah i thought marquez won them fights with pac too so id have him 1st p4p with pac a close second. im buzzing that hes the new lightweight champion, no one could deserve it more than marquez.

[CutMeMick]

Nice copy N paste job....

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Nice copy N paste job....

Mick, at this point we all know I'm a lazy moron... you guys get the idea

[Pugilistic]

He moves up one spot on Fenster's list as well. Second to first by way of Joan Guzman getting booted out for inactivity and unprofessionalism.

1. Marquez
2. Pac
3. Calzaghe

Fact.

I also think Marquez should be number 1 because i think he beat Pacquiao twice but i also think Calzaghe shouldn't be 3 because i had him just losing the Hopkins fight.

It really dont matter who you think won what matters is who won and that was pacman but you are right about calzaghe he should 5 or something and if anything kelly should be ahead of bhop. its doesnt matter hel be up there in a month

Hopkins had two wins over winky and Tarver who were ranked in the top 10 p4p list when he beat them, and he lost a close SD against the number 2 ranked fighter in the world Calzaghe.Pavlik holds 2 wins over a fighter ranked in the top 10 p4p list and that was surprise surprise Jermain Taylor. If i'm correct taylors rating was 6 or 7. No way does Pavlik belong in front of hopkins. He will deserve to be in front if he wins in October.