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    Disagree think Bradley is a blown up light welter, who is a very good fighter but not as dangerous as Cotto. Floyd is going up in weight, Cotto has looked impressive in his victories and he is very experienced. If he sticks to a game plan, he has the speed, punch and versatility to cause Floyd more problems than Bradley would do against Pacquiau.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Disagree think Bradley is a blown up light welter, who is a very good fighter but not as dangerous as Cotto. Floyd is going up in weight, Cotto has looked impressive in his victories and he is very experienced. If he sticks to a game plan, he has the speed, punch and versatility to cause Floyd more problems than Bradley would do against Pacquiau.
    Bradley has won all his fights easily. He is awkward and fast. Could smother Pac and will probably not slow down that much throughout the fight. Cotto has good skills but that is what he uses, his boxing skills.
    Which in comparison to Mayweathers skills they are amateurish.

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    Cant see Pacquiao losing this fight but i said that about Marquez but should be a really intresting fight cant wait for this one Bradley im sure will ask a few questions,he is one very awkward customer.But still i think Pac Man will have too much for him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Disagree think Bradley is a blown up light welter, who is a very good fighter but not as dangerous as Cotto. Floyd is going up in weight, Cotto has looked impressive in his victories and he is very experienced. If he sticks to a game plan, he has the speed, punch and versatility to cause Floyd more problems than Bradley would do against Pacquiau.
    What is Pacquiao then? They're the same size. Pacquiao and Bradley will come in at almost the exact same weight without any hydration issues. Size isn't an issue here.

    Bradley is in his prime. He's undefeated and he's fast. Cotto is passed his prime, he's been knocked out twice, and he's not very fast anymore. Cotto isnt the Cotto from 2007. It's unfortunate, but he's not. Why do you think he hasn't been matched with any other top 5 junior middleweight? He's got a punchers chance here at most. His style has also changed from a puncher-boxer to a boxer-puncher. He hasn't fought like 2007 Cotto in a while. That works against Margarito, but against Mayweather?

    There are many ways for Bradley to win this fight. Maul for the first few rounds. Box for the next few. Move for the last few. Pacquiao hasn't stopped anyone since 2009 despite what his accusers say. It's possible he has he lost a step. In addition, Bradley has got some beast in him. Pacquiao should be favored, but Bradley is a live dog here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Disagree think Bradley is a blown up light welter, who is a very good fighter but not as dangerous as Cotto. Floyd is going up in weight, Cotto has looked impressive in his victories and he is very experienced. If he sticks to a game plan, he has the speed, punch and versatility to cause Floyd more problems than Bradley would do against Pacquiau.
    What is Pacquiao then? They're the same size. Pacquiao and Bradley will come in at almost the exact same weight without any hydration issues. Size isn't an issue here.

    Bradley is in his prime. He's undefeated and he's fast. Cotto is passed his prime, he's been knocked out twice, and he's not very fast anymore. Cotto isnt the Cotto from 2007. It's unfortunate, but he's not. Why do you think he hasn't been matched with any other top 5 junior middleweight? He's got a punchers chance here at most. His style has also changed from a puncher-boxer to a boxer-puncher. He hasn't fought like 2007 Cotto in a while. That works against Margarito, but against Mayweather?

    There are many ways for Bradley to win this fight. Maul for the first few rounds. Box for the next few. Move for the last few. Pacquiao hasn't stopped anyone since 2009 despite what his accusers say. It's possible he has he lost a step. In addition, Bradley has got some beast in him. Pacquiao should be favored, but Bradley is a live dog here.
    Your attempts at feigning impartiality make me laugh. I chuckle more about it when you accuse me of being biased and you just made this post.

    You are not seriously trying to convince yourself that this is a better and tougher fight than Floyd vs Cotto will be at 154 are you? Anybody else who's not on Manny's payroll feel the same way, out of curiosity??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Disagree think Bradley is a blown up light welter, who is a very good fighter but not as dangerous as Cotto. Floyd is going up in weight, Cotto has looked impressive in his victories and he is very experienced. If he sticks to a game plan, he has the speed, punch and versatility to cause Floyd more problems than Bradley would do against Pacquiau.
    What is Pacquiao then? They're the same size. Pacquiao and Bradley will come in at almost the exact same weight without any hydration issues. Size isn't an issue here.

    Bradley is in his prime. He's undefeated and he's fast. Cotto is passed his prime, he's been knocked out twice, and he's not very fast anymore. Cotto isnt the Cotto from 2007. It's unfortunate, but he's not. Why do you think he hasn't been matched with any other top 5 junior middleweight? He's got a punchers chance here at most. His style has also changed from a puncher-boxer to a boxer-puncher. He hasn't fought like 2007 Cotto in a while. That works against Margarito, but against Mayweather?

    There are many ways for Bradley to win this fight. Maul for the first few rounds. Box for the next few. Move for the last few. Pacquiao hasn't stopped anyone since 2009 despite what his accusers say. It's possible he has he lost a step. In addition, Bradley has got some beast in him. Pacquiao should be favored, but Bradley is a live dog here.
    Your attempts at feigning impartiality make me laugh. I chuckle more about it when you accuse me of being biased and you just made this post.

    You are not seriously trying to convince yourself that this is a better and tougher fight than Floyd vs Cotto will be at 154 are you? Anybody else who's not on Manny's payroll feel the same way, out of curiosity??
    Bradley imo is a much better fight. Cotto was totally whipped by Pac in there fight. What makes you think he has a chance against Mayweather. Its technical fighter vs technical fighter. Mayweathers technical skills make Cottos look crap. Cotto will be the bigger man but not by much. That will not bother Mayweather in the slightest. Bradley is very awkward and has won all of his fights with relitive ease.
    I would much rather see Bradley vs floyd/Pac than cotto against them. Bradley is undefeated and has hardly ever been close to losing a fight. What more can you ask for in an opponent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leighton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Disagree think Bradley is a blown up light welter, who is a very good fighter but not as dangerous as Cotto. Floyd is going up in weight, Cotto has looked impressive in his victories and he is very experienced. If he sticks to a game plan, he has the speed, punch and versatility to cause Floyd more problems than Bradley would do against Pacquiau.
    What is Pacquiao then? They're the same size. Pacquiao and Bradley will come in at almost the exact same weight without any hydration issues. Size isn't an issue here.

    Bradley is in his prime. He's undefeated and he's fast. Cotto is passed his prime, he's been knocked out twice, and he's not very fast anymore. Cotto isnt the Cotto from 2007. It's unfortunate, but he's not. Why do you think he hasn't been matched with any other top 5 junior middleweight? He's got a punchers chance here at most. His style has also changed from a puncher-boxer to a boxer-puncher. He hasn't fought like 2007 Cotto in a while. That works against Margarito, but against Mayweather?

    There are many ways for Bradley to win this fight. Maul for the first few rounds. Box for the next few. Move for the last few. Pacquiao hasn't stopped anyone since 2009 despite what his accusers say. It's possible he has he lost a step. In addition, Bradley has got some beast in him. Pacquiao should be favored, but Bradley is a live dog here.
    Your attempts at feigning impartiality make me laugh. I chuckle more about it when you accuse me of being biased and you just made this post.

    You are not seriously trying to convince yourself that this is a better and tougher fight than Floyd vs Cotto will be at 154 are you? Anybody else who's not on Manny's payroll feel the same way, out of curiosity??
    Bradley imo is a much better fight. Cotto was totally whipped by Pac in there fight. What makes you think he has a chance against Mayweather. Its technical fighter vs technical fighter. Mayweathers technical skills make Cottos look crap. Cotto will be the bigger man but not by much. That will not bother Mayweather in the slightest. Bradley is very awkward and has won all of his fights with relitive ease.
    I would much rather see Bradley vs floyd/Pac than cotto against them. Bradley is undefeated and has hardly ever been close to losing a fight. What more can you ask for in an opponent.
    Who has Bradley fought that could come even close to beating him? Junior Witter? Alexander who got a gift against Matthyse? Old ass Casamayor? Maybe Peterson is the only argument that can be made.

    Cottos resume is much better and I like how you forgot to mention that Pac beat him drained at 145. (and refused to fight him at 150 even though thats the fight he preferred? Obviously HE sees Cotto as dangerous)

    As far as Floyd technically makes him look like shit, wrong again. Cotto has tremendous technical skills. Floyd wasnt very technical at all against Ortiz. He relies more on being awkward defensively and offensively now. But he obviously has technique to allow him to get away with it. Technically, they're around the same. Floyd has better speed and reach.

    Again, wrong about the size difference. Cotto will come in around 160 on fight night. When Floyd fought Oscar he came in at 147 on fight night. Thats 13lbs..that is a big difference.

    I said earlier the Pac/Bradley fight is a good one. No doubt interesting but by no means is it bigger, better or tougher than Floyd Cotto. If it becomes any of the above, it says more about Pacquiao not being as good as people claim IMO but I fully expect Pac to do a job on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Leighton View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Disagree think Bradley is a blown up light welter, who is a very good fighter but not as dangerous as Cotto. Floyd is going up in weight, Cotto has looked impressive in his victories and he is very experienced. If he sticks to a game plan, he has the speed, punch and versatility to cause Floyd more problems than Bradley would do against Pacquiau.
    What is Pacquiao then? They're the same size. Pacquiao and Bradley will come in at almost the exact same weight without any hydration issues. Size isn't an issue here.

    Bradley is in his prime. He's undefeated and he's fast. Cotto is passed his prime, he's been knocked out twice, and he's not very fast anymore. Cotto isnt the Cotto from 2007. It's unfortunate, but he's not. Why do you think he hasn't been matched with any other top 5 junior middleweight? He's got a punchers chance here at most. His style has also changed from a puncher-boxer to a boxer-puncher. He hasn't fought like 2007 Cotto in a while. That works against Margarito, but against Mayweather?

    There are many ways for Bradley to win this fight. Maul for the first few rounds. Box for the next few. Move for the last few. Pacquiao hasn't stopped anyone since 2009 despite what his accusers say. It's possible he has he lost a step. In addition, Bradley has got some beast in him. Pacquiao should be favored, but Bradley is a live dog here.
    Your attempts at feigning impartiality make me laugh. I chuckle more about it when you accuse me of being biased and you just made this post.

    You are not seriously trying to convince yourself that this is a better and tougher fight than Floyd vs Cotto will be at 154 are you? Anybody else who's not on Manny's payroll feel the same way, out of curiosity??
    Bradley imo is a much better fight. Cotto was totally whipped by Pac in there fight. What makes you think he has a chance against Mayweather. Its technical fighter vs technical fighter. Mayweathers technical skills make Cottos look crap. Cotto will be the bigger man but not by much. That will not bother Mayweather in the slightest. Bradley is very awkward and has won all of his fights with relitive ease.
    I would much rather see Bradley vs floyd/Pac than cotto against them. Bradley is undefeated and has hardly ever been close to losing a fight. What more can you ask for in an opponent.
    Who has Bradley fought that could come even close to beating him? Junior Witter? Alexander who got a gift against Matthyse? Old ass Casamayor? Maybe Peterson is the only argument that can be made.

    Cottos resume is much better and I like how you forgot to mention that Pac beat him drained at 145. (and refused to fight him at 150 even though thats the fight he preferred? Obviously HE sees Cotto as dangerous)

    As far as Floyd technically makes him look like shit, wrong again. Cotto has tremendous technical skills. Floyd wasnt very technical at all against Ortiz. He relies more on being awkward defensively and offensively now. But he obviously has technique to allow him to get away with it. Technically, they're around the same. Floyd has better speed and reach.

    Again, wrong about the size difference. Cotto will come in around 160 on fight night. When Floyd fought Oscar he came in at 147 on fight night. Thats 13lbs..that is a big difference.

    I said earlier the Pac/Bradley fight is a good one. No doubt interesting but by no means is it bigger, better or tougher than Floyd Cotto. If it becomes any of the above, it says more about Pacquiao not being as good as people claim IMO but I fully expect Pac to do a job on him.
    That statement its like back and forth who's being much better opponents of the two top p4p of our time, very true Cotto a technical fighter and heavier fighter this time as you'd said. But (Cotto) been on slide also if you noticed he's not that top notch @ 154 to beat Floyd even he is heavier. Floyd in the meantime hes fighting a welters for long time i guess for 5 years + and easily can fight 154 like he did to ODLH.

    Cotto is great at 140-147 at JMW hes not, his best fight recently with Margarito whos also been a catchweight @JMW, Although Cotto box good that night if not with Margas eye injury it could turn the tide against Cotto later rounds. Floyd has reach advantage and also the speed as you said. At this time i really dont see Floyd struggles with this , at weight? Nah, Well never know thats also my guess.

    Bradley is much tougher opponent i guess hes rough, a natural 140 lbs career can easily go higher at welters fighter while Pac fights at welters weighing at mostly 144-45ish career, and what Manny showed recently to JMM is really tough take to make.

    Cotto has better career resume, more experienced fighter than Bradley but in reality against with Floyd as of now he's not that great like on his 140's-147 .
    Bradleys youth, he's rough, hungrier champion, well expect to some Manny to win easy but imo it wil be tough at this point in time. Some of the poster here including me sees Manny is on the slide and i guess that's the reality.

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    So Bradley is getting $5m but does he get a share of the PPV.

    Bradley is doing great for himself , win or lose he will still get some big fights at 140-147
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    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Leighton View Post
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    Disagree think Bradley is a blown up light welter, who is a very good fighter but not as dangerous as Cotto. Floyd is going up in weight, Cotto has looked impressive in his victories and he is very experienced. If he sticks to a game plan, he has the speed, punch and versatility to cause Floyd more problems than Bradley would do against Pacquiau.
    What is Pacquiao then? They're the same size. Pacquiao and Bradley will come in at almost the exact same weight without any hydration issues. Size isn't an issue here.

    Bradley is in his prime. He's undefeated and he's fast. Cotto is passed his prime, he's been knocked out twice, and he's not very fast anymore. Cotto isnt the Cotto from 2007. It's unfortunate, but he's not. Why do you think he hasn't been matched with any other top 5 junior middleweight? He's got a punchers chance here at most. His style has also changed from a puncher-boxer to a boxer-puncher. He hasn't fought like 2007 Cotto in a while. That works against Margarito, but against Mayweather?

    There are many ways for Bradley to win this fight. Maul for the first few rounds. Box for the next few. Move for the last few. Pacquiao hasn't stopped anyone since 2009 despite what his accusers say. It's possible he has he lost a step. In addition, Bradley has got some beast in him. Pacquiao should be favored, but Bradley is a live dog here.
    Your attempts at feigning impartiality make me laugh. I chuckle more about it when you accuse me of being biased and you just made this post.

    You are not seriously trying to convince yourself that this is a better and tougher fight than Floyd vs Cotto will be at 154 are you? Anybody else who's not on Manny's payroll feel the same way, out of curiosity??
    Bradley imo is a much better fight. Cotto was totally whipped by Pac in there fight. What makes you think he has a chance against Mayweather. Its technical fighter vs technical fighter. Mayweathers technical skills make Cottos look crap. Cotto will be the bigger man but not by much. That will not bother Mayweather in the slightest. Bradley is very awkward and has won all of his fights with relitive ease.
    I would much rather see Bradley vs floyd/Pac than cotto against them. Bradley is undefeated and has hardly ever been close to losing a fight. What more can you ask for in an opponent.
    Who has Bradley fought that could come even close to beating him? Junior Witter? Alexander who got a gift against Matthyse? Old ass Casamayor? Maybe Peterson is the only argument that can be made.

    Cottos resume is much better and I like how you forgot to mention that Pac beat him drained at 145. (and refused to fight him at 150 even though thats the fight he preferred? Obviously HE sees Cotto as dangerous)

    As far as Floyd technically makes him look like shit, wrong again. Cotto has tremendous technical skills. Floyd wasnt very technical at all against Ortiz. He relies more on being awkward defensively and offensively now. But he obviously has technique to allow him to get away with it. Technically, they're around the same. Floyd has better speed and reach.

    Again, wrong about the size difference. Cotto will come in around 160 on fight night. When Floyd fought Oscar he came in at 147 on fight night. Thats 13lbs..that is a big difference.

    I said earlier the Pac/Bradley fight is a good one. No doubt interesting but by no means is it bigger, better or tougher than Floyd Cotto. If it becomes any of the above, it says more about Pacquiao not being as good as people claim IMO but I fully expect Pac to do a job on him.
    When Mayweather took on Ortiz he did not opt for his usual style. His normal style would have no trouble against him.
    Cottos resume may be a little better than Bradleys but Bradley has not lost a fight and has defeated all his opponents with ease. And do you really think Cotto would of had a chance of beating Pac if he was his normal weight. He may have done a little better but would have still been destroyed.
    Cotto may be a good technical boxer but his skills are nothing near Mayweathers.
    We are not going to agree with each other but I will make you this bet. I bet that Bradley will do better against Pac than Cotto does against Mayweather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
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    Disagree think Bradley is a blown up light welter, who is a very good fighter but not as dangerous as Cotto. Floyd is going up in weight, Cotto has looked impressive in his victories and he is very experienced. If he sticks to a game plan, he has the speed, punch and versatility to cause Floyd more problems than Bradley would do against Pacquiau.
    What is Pacquiao then? They're the same size. Pacquiao and Bradley will come in at almost the exact same weight without any hydration issues. Size isn't an issue here.

    Bradley is in his prime. He's undefeated and he's fast. Cotto is passed his prime, he's been knocked out twice, and he's not very fast anymore. Cotto isnt the Cotto from 2007. It's unfortunate, but he's not. Why do you think he hasn't been matched with any other top 5 junior middleweight? He's got a punchers chance here at most. His style has also changed from a puncher-boxer to a boxer-puncher. He hasn't fought like 2007 Cotto in a while. That works against Margarito, but against Mayweather?

    There are many ways for Bradley to win this fight. Maul for the first few rounds. Box for the next few. Move for the last few. Pacquiao hasn't stopped anyone since 2009 despite what his accusers say. It's possible he has he lost a step. In addition, Bradley has got some beast in him. Pacquiao should be favored, but Bradley is a live dog here.
    Your attempts at feigning impartiality make me laugh. I chuckle more about it when you accuse me of being biased and you just made this post.

    You are not seriously trying to convince yourself that this is a better and tougher fight than Floyd vs Cotto will be at 154 are you? Anybody else who's not on Manny's payroll feel the same way, out of curiosity??
    Bradley imo is a much better fight. Cotto was totally whipped by Pac in there fight. What makes you think he has a chance against Mayweather. Its technical fighter vs technical fighter. Mayweathers technical skills make Cottos look crap. Cotto will be the bigger man but not by much. That will not bother Mayweather in the slightest. Bradley is very awkward and has won all of his fights with relitive ease.
    I would much rather see Bradley vs floyd/Pac than cotto against them. Bradley is undefeated and has hardly ever been close to losing a fight. What more can you ask for in an opponent.
    Who has Bradley fought that could come even close to beating him? Junior Witter? Alexander who got a gift against Matthyse? Old ass Casamayor? Maybe Peterson is the only argument that can be made.

    Cottos resume is much better and I like how you forgot to mention that Pac beat him drained at 145. (and refused to fight him at 150 even though thats the fight he preferred? Obviously HE sees Cotto as dangerous)

    As far as Floyd technically makes him look like shit, wrong again. Cotto has tremendous technical skills. Floyd wasnt very technical at all against Ortiz. He relies more on being awkward defensively and offensively now. But he obviously has technique to allow him to get away with it. Technically, they're around the same. Floyd has better speed and reach.

    Again, wrong about the size difference. Cotto will come in around 160 on fight night. When Floyd fought Oscar he came in at 147 on fight night. Thats 13lbs..that is a big difference.

    I said earlier the Pac/Bradley fight is a good one. No doubt interesting but by no means is it bigger, better or tougher than Floyd Cotto. If it becomes any of the above, it says more about Pacquiao not being as good as people claim IMO but I fully expect Pac to do a job on him.
    Completely agree^^ PAC vs Bradley is no where near as Floyd vs Cotto. Bradley hasn't fought any good names and when he fought Alexander when they were bothe undefeated I thought it would be a great fight even though I've never heard of them. Turns out it sucked because they're both not good enough to compete with elite boxers. Once again Cotto was drained, had no trainer, his father had recently passed and now that they want to fight him again they want him to come back to 147 when he's been fighting at 154?? BS!! It made me so glad that mayweather made this fight at the proper weight shows more about him. Only thing that kind of annoys me is that I want Cotto to win but I don't because I'm sure I know what the PACTARDS will have to say if he wins. "PAC destroyed Cotto and Cotto beat mayweather ofcourse PAC will beat mayweather" etc. then Cotto probably won't get a rematch because there's "nothing" to prove. But they'll never say the diffrence in the circumstances they fought under.

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    Disagree think Bradley is a blown up light welter, who is a very good fighter but not as dangerous as Cotto. Floyd is going up in weight, Cotto has looked impressive in his victories and he is very experienced. If he sticks to a game plan, he has the speed, punch and versatility to cause Floyd more problems than Bradley would do against Pacquiau.
    What is Pacquiao then? They're the same size. Pacquiao and Bradley will come in at almost the exact same weight without any hydration issues. Size isn't an issue here.

    Bradley is in his prime. He's undefeated and he's fast. Cotto is passed his prime, he's been knocked out twice, and he's not very fast anymore. Cotto isnt the Cotto from 2007. It's unfortunate, but he's not. Why do you think he hasn't been matched with any other top 5 junior middleweight? He's got a punchers chance here at most. His style has also changed from a puncher-boxer to a boxer-puncher. He hasn't fought like 2007 Cotto in a while. That works against Margarito, but against Mayweather?

    There are many ways for Bradley to win this fight. Maul for the first few rounds. Box for the next few. Move for the last few. Pacquiao hasn't stopped anyone since 2009 despite what his accusers say. It's possible he has he lost a step. In addition, Bradley has got some beast in him. Pacquiao should be favored, but Bradley is a live dog here.
    Your attempts at feigning impartiality make me laugh. I chuckle more about it when you accuse me of being biased and you just made this post.

    You are not seriously trying to convince yourself that this is a better and tougher fight than Floyd vs Cotto will be at 154 are you? Anybody else who's not on Manny's payroll feel the same way, out of curiosity??
    Bradley imo is a much better fight. Cotto was totally whipped by Pac in there fight. What makes you think he has a chance against Mayweather. Its technical fighter vs technical fighter. Mayweathers technical skills make Cottos look crap. Cotto will be the bigger man but not by much. That will not bother Mayweather in the slightest. Bradley is very awkward and has won all of his fights with relitive ease.
    I would much rather see Bradley vs floyd/Pac than cotto against them. Bradley is undefeated and has hardly ever been close to losing a fight. What more can you ask for in an opponent.
    Who has Bradley fought that could come even close to beating him? Junior Witter? Alexander who got a gift against Matthyse? Old ass Casamayor? Maybe Peterson is the only argument that can be made.

    Cottos resume is much better and I like how you forgot to mention that Pac beat him drained at 145. (and refused to fight him at 150 even though thats the fight he preferred? Obviously HE sees Cotto as dangerous)

    As far as Floyd technically makes him look like shit, wrong again. Cotto has tremendous technical skills. Floyd wasnt very technical at all against Ortiz. He relies more on being awkward defensively and offensively now. But he obviously has technique to allow him to get away with it. Technically, they're around the same. Floyd has better speed and reach.

    Again, wrong about the size difference. Cotto will come in around 160 on fight night. When Floyd fought Oscar he came in at 147 on fight night. Thats 13lbs..that is a big difference.

    I said earlier the Pac/Bradley fight is a good one. No doubt interesting but by no means is it bigger, better or tougher than Floyd Cotto. If it becomes any of the above, it says more about Pacquiao not being as good as people claim IMO but I fully expect Pac to do a job on him.
    Completely agree^^ PAC vs Bradley is no where near as Floyd vs Cotto. Bradley hasn't fought any good names and when he fought Alexander when they were bothe undefeated I thought it would be a great fight even though I've never heard of them. Turns out it sucked because they're both not good enough to compete with elite boxers. Once again Cotto was drained, had no trainer, his father had recently passed and now that they want to fight him again they want him to come back to 147 when he's been fighting at 154?? BS!! It made me so glad that mayweather made this fight at the proper weight shows more about him. Only thing that kind of annoys me is that I want Cotto to win but I don't because I'm sure I know what the PACTARDS will have to say if he wins. "PAC destroyed Cotto and Cotto beat mayweather ofcourse PAC will beat mayweather" etc. then Cotto probably won't get a rematch because there's "nothing" to prove. But they'll never say the diffrence in the circumstances they fought under.
    (1) To be clear, there are more "Flomos" on this forum than "Pactards." By far. For me, I like both guys in the ring. It boggles my mind that aren't more people out there who share a similar view. But, hey...

    (2) You're 100% wrong for contending that Bradley isn't any good. Bradley dominated Lamont Peterson and Devon Alexander. Both are good boxers. It's almost ridiculous to even state that opinion. Are you joking?

    (3) Floyd will dominate Cotto. Cotto has NO shot. Don't buy into the Al Haymon spin that Cotto will be more effective at 154. Come on, really? What success has Cotto had against junior middleweights? In a relatively deep division with some dangerous guys, who has Cotto fought? An one-legged Yuri Foreman? Don't get me wrong, I'm a big Cotto fan, and Cotto is a future hall of famer, but his best days are behind him. He's been fighting strictly for a pay check for a long time. This is no exception. This fight should have happened 3-4 years ago.

    (4) Bradley is much more competitive against Pacquiao than Cotto is against Mayweather although Pacquiao rightly should be favored. Watch the Agapito Sanchez-Pacquiao fight. You'll see why Bradley has a shot.

    (5) Remember when I told you prior to the Victor Ortiz-Floyd Mayweather and the Pacquiao-JMM fights that Mayweather would dominate Victor and JMM would give Pacquiao a tough battle? I even created a thread with a poll about who was the tougher opponent. Trust me on this one: Bradley is the tougher opponent just like Marquez was.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao Vs Bradley

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    Disagree think Bradley is a blown up light welter, who is a very good fighter but not as dangerous as Cotto. Floyd is going up in weight, Cotto has looked impressive in his victories and he is very experienced. If he sticks to a game plan, he has the speed, punch and versatility to cause Floyd more problems than Bradley would do against Pacquiau.
    What is Pacquiao then? They're the same size. Pacquiao and Bradley will come in at almost the exact same weight without any hydration issues. Size isn't an issue here.

    Bradley is in his prime. He's undefeated and he's fast. Cotto is passed his prime, he's been knocked out twice, and he's not very fast anymore. Cotto isnt the Cotto from 2007. It's unfortunate, but he's not. Why do you think he hasn't been matched with any other top 5 junior middleweight? He's got a punchers chance here at most. His style has also changed from a puncher-boxer to a boxer-puncher. He hasn't fought like 2007 Cotto in a while. That works against Margarito, but against Mayweather?

    There are many ways for Bradley to win this fight. Maul for the first few rounds. Box for the next few. Move for the last few. Pacquiao hasn't stopped anyone since 2009 despite what his accusers say. It's possible he has he lost a step. In addition, Bradley has got some beast in him. Pacquiao should be favored, but Bradley is a live dog here.
    Your attempts at feigning impartiality make me laugh. I chuckle more about it when you accuse me of being biased and you just made this post.

    You are not seriously trying to convince yourself that this is a better and tougher fight than Floyd vs Cotto will be at 154 are you? Anybody else who's not on Manny's payroll feel the same way, out of curiosity??
    This is a quote from Doug Fisher's Monday Mailbag from Ring Magazine (owned by Golden Boy):
    "Most of my peers view Pacquiao-Bradley as a more competitive fight than Cotto-Mayweather. They might be right, but I doubt it will be as entertaining. And I agree with you that Bradley’s head (coupled with his short stature and in-and-out movement) will be a problem for Pacquiao." (emphasis added)

    Here is boxingtalk.com's Tommy Canz on the Miguel Cotto v. Floyd Mayweather match-up: BOXINGTALK : FIVE OBVIOUS REASONS WHY COTTO HAS MINIMAL CHANCE AGAINST MAYWEATHER

    I can't find the quote right now but Fat Dan Rafael from espn.com agrees with that assessment too.

    You're in the minority actually that believes Cotto is a more competitive fight than Bradley.

    Another opinion of a mailbag I follow, Steve Edwards at Boxingtalk.com (I recommend reading his mailbags if you get the chance as I find him very insightful): http://www.boxingtalk.com/pag/article.php?aid=22841 - saying there that Pacquiao has his hands full.

    http://thesweetscience.com/news/arti...for-mayweather
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    Default Re: Pacquiao Vs Bradley

    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
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    Disagree think Bradley is a blown up light welter, who is a very good fighter but not as dangerous as Cotto. Floyd is going up in weight, Cotto has looked impressive in his victories and he is very experienced. If he sticks to a game plan, he has the speed, punch and versatility to cause Floyd more problems than Bradley would do against Pacquiau.
    What is Pacquiao then? They're the same size. Pacquiao and Bradley will come in at almost the exact same weight without any hydration issues. Size isn't an issue here.

    Bradley is in his prime. He's undefeated and he's fast. Cotto is passed his prime, he's been knocked out twice, and he's not very fast anymore. Cotto isnt the Cotto from 2007. It's unfortunate, but he's not. Why do you think he hasn't been matched with any other top 5 junior middleweight? He's got a punchers chance here at most. His style has also changed from a puncher-boxer to a boxer-puncher. He hasn't fought like 2007 Cotto in a while. That works against Margarito, but against Mayweather?

    There are many ways for Bradley to win this fight. Maul for the first few rounds. Box for the next few. Move for the last few. Pacquiao hasn't stopped anyone since 2009 despite what his accusers say. It's possible he has he lost a step. In addition, Bradley has got some beast in him. Pacquiao should be favored, but Bradley is a live dog here.
    Your attempts at feigning impartiality make me laugh. I chuckle more about it when you accuse me of being biased and you just made this post.

    You are not seriously trying to convince yourself that this is a better and tougher fight than Floyd vs Cotto will be at 154 are you? Anybody else who's not on Manny's payroll feel the same way, out of curiosity??
    Also, Floyd has opened up as a -700 to Cotto +500 and Pacquiao has opened up as a -370 to Bradley at +310.

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