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    Default why is joe louis praised and marciano criticized 4............

    the same oppostion---just something i will never understand

    joe louis was the one of the greatest but marciano was just some bum who got lucky 4 his time.

    same pple prasie louis but discredit rocky--which is just ignorance

    joe louis lost 2 a washed up schmeling---schmeling was the worst example that germany used as its "man". schmeling is way overrated.

    joe louis beat bums , hasbeens, oldmen ans wash up champions. but rocky haters will ironically continue 2 prasie louis.---makes no sense



    rocky beat and old man 4 the title.........so did louis(walcott was much more dangerous title holder than braddock ever was)
    rocky beat washed up champs---so did louis(only more)
    marciano fought bums on his way up-------louis fough bums for title defenses and his way up

    point being: dont hate marciano and praise louis--cuz it f****** stupid

    this post in no way discredits or slander louis---just used 2 prove a point

    joe louis: an all time great and american hero



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    Default Re: why is joe louis praised and marciano criticized 4............

    i quite agree they both deserve props for their time in the ring. discrediting one will most likely result in discrediting the other. however if they would have fought in their primes I would have picked louis over marciano.
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    Default Re: why is joe louis praised and marciano criticized 4............

    After what Louis did to that German fighter during WWll, it was almost impossible to hate him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    After what Louis did to that German fighter during WWll, it was almost impossible to hate him.
    Actually if you are talking about the second Schmeling fight, that was before the war
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuciferTheGreat
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    After what Louis did to that German fighter during WWll, it was almost impossible to hate him.
    Actually if you are talking about the second Schmeling fight, that was before the war
    Yeah that's it. After that fight Louis had very little critics left

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    Quote Originally Posted by undefeated
    the same oppostion---just something i will never understand

    joe louis was the one of the greatest but marciano was just some bum who got lucky 4 his time.

    same pple prasie louis but discredit rocky--which is just ignorance

    joe louis lost 2 a washed up schmeling---schmeling was the worst example that germany used as its "man". schmeling is way overrated.

    joe louis beat bums , hasbeens, oldmen ans wash up champions. but rocky haters will ironically continue 2 prasie louis.---makes no sense



    rocky beat and old man 4 the title.........so did louis(walcott was much more dangerous title holder than braddock ever was)
    rocky beat washed up champs---so did louis(only more)
    marciano fought bums on his way up-------louis fough bums for title defenses and his way up

    point being: dont hate marciano and praise louis--cuz it f****** stupid

    this post in no way discredits or slander louis---just used 2 prove a point

    joe louis: an all time great and american hero


    Good point.

    I have seen a lot of Rocky bashing on this forum and it has always perplexed me. I think that a lot of it is just plain ignorance.

    Some people just don't understand the human body. Rocky was a very small heavy and yet he managed to devestate sooo many boxers and basically go undefeated. Thats impressive no matter how you cut it.

    It always seems like if someone does't like a fighter they will always say that "the competition in his era was weak"

    Bottom line is, if you are a good champion, you are bound to make the rest of the division look weak because you are beating the shit out of all of them.

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    Default Re: why is joe louis praised and marciano criticized 4............

    Yer alot of people dislike rocky for the opposition he faught, thats fooking pathetic, hating someone for beating everyone in his day.
    RIP Rocky!

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    alot of fighters have this problem with their legacies. It is simply rare to have 3-5 great hw's around at the same time. I think Joe had a slightly better resume but there is no arguing that its fluffed up with alot of bums. Its hard to fault any fighter for retiring at 49-0 and staying that way, but Rock could have helped his legacy quite a bit by fighting Liston and Patterson when he still would have been in his mid 30's. I put Joe in my top three and Rock in my top ten all time HW's
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    After what Louis did to that German fighter during WWll, it was almost impossible to hate him.
    Schmeling was a really good guy, though !!!

    he later paid or Louis' hospital bills after Joe was broke. he was never a nazi or anything (he had a Jewish manager)
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    Default Re: why is joe louis praised and marciano criticized 4............

    Since when are boxers American Heros?

    Carrot Top is a real American hero...


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    Quote Originally Posted by raleights
    Since when are boxers American Heros?

    Carrot Top is a real American hero...

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    Default Re: why is joe louis praised and marciano criticized 4............

    Quote Originally Posted by undefeated
    the same oppostion---just something i will never understand

    joe louis was the one of the greatest but marciano was just some bum who got lucky 4 his time.

    same pple prasie louis but discredit rocky--which is just ignorance

    joe louis lost 2 a washed up schmeling---schmeling was the worst example that germany used as its "man". schmeling is way overrated.

    joe louis beat bums , hasbeens, oldmen ans wash up champions. but rocky haters will ironically continue 2 prasie louis.---makes no sense



    rocky beat and old man 4 the title.........so did louis(walcott was much more dangerous title holder than braddock ever was)
    rocky beat washed up champs---so did louis(only more)
    marciano fought bums on his way up-------louis fough bums for title defenses and his way up

    point being: dont hate marciano and praise louis--cuz it f****** stupid

    this post in no way discredits or slander louis---just used 2 prove a point

    joe louis: an all time great and american hero


    The '72 Dolphins are the only undefeated team in NFL history. The '85 Bears are the greatest team in NFL history. You wanna know why? Because the Dolphins were just a bunch of mediocre over-achievers who played during a lackluster talented era. Same principle here. Accept it and move on.

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    Default Re: why is joe louis praised and marciano criticized 4............

    They were mostly all small heavyweights back then. Rocky wasn't that small compared to the weights of other fighters during that era. Most were below 200 lbs.

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    Default Re: why is joe louis praised and marciano criticized 4............

    Because Joe Louis dominated a weak Heavyweight division but he fought the best in that era. And Marciano got through an even weaker era where he didn't even fight all the best of that weaker era

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImRipped
    Quote Originally Posted by undefeated
    the same oppostion---just something i will never understand

    joe louis was the one of the greatest but marciano was just some bum who got lucky 4 his time.

    same pple prasie louis but discredit rocky--which is just ignorance

    joe louis lost 2 a washed up schmeling---schmeling was the worst example that germany used as its "man". schmeling is way overrated.

    joe louis beat bums , hasbeens, oldmen ans wash up champions. but rocky haters will ironically continue 2 prasie louis.---makes no sense



    rocky beat and old man 4 the title.........so did louis(walcott was much more dangerous title holder than braddock ever was)
    rocky beat washed up champs---so did louis(only more)
    marciano fought bums on his way up-------louis fough bums for title defenses and his way up

    point being: dont hate marciano and praise louis--cuz it f****** stupid

    this post in no way discredits or slander louis---just used 2 prove a point

    joe louis: an all time great and american hero


    The '72 Dolphins are the only undefeated team in NFL history. The '85 Bears are the greatest team in NFL history. You wanna know why? Because the Dolphins were just a bunch of mediocre over-achievers who played during a lackluster talented era. Same principle here. Accept it and move on.
    Bullshit Once again, the guy was an undersized heavy and still went out there and beat the shit out of everyone. Undefeated in boxing is a little different than football.

    What he did was impressive but some people don't like him.

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