Todays Lack Luster Heavyweight Divison

[Lords Gym]

The problem with the Heavyweight Division Nobody has any consistency .

[Raeder]

Samuel Peter is the most exciting heavyweight in my judgement, however, he could improve on certain critical aspects of his style; you are correct. Wladimir Klitschko is a classy fighter and individual. How many times does one see a fighter with an earned PhD (with dissertation) in the professional ring? Well, his brother, I guess. They are both family men, articulate and gentlemanly; that speaks for well the division too. One cannot avoid noticing Nikoloai Valuev at 7", 223 lbs. He is currently 44-0; he is educated, soft-spoken and has a devastating uppercut (ask Etienne and Beck). Finally, young Notre Dame football standout, and captain, a true scholar-athlete, Tommy Zbikowski, has quite a following and some strength and skills as demonstrated at MSG last Saturday night; if he came down to cruiserweight, he would have a fine boxing career.
All in all, the heavyweight division is most interesting and promising. If one is only interested in truculent fighters, watch Valuev, I sense he is getting a little mean!

[El Kabong]

The problem is not consistancy, fighters on all levels lack consistancy the problem is we have 4 title holders and none of the top level guys will fight each other if I was even close to the top of that division I would be calling out ANYONE and EVERYONE and calling them chickenshit or say they were hiding behind their promoter.

If the title holders and top tier guys fought each other we'd have a great division. Look at the 60's and 70's the so called "Golden Era" of heavyweights had Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Norton, Lyle, Liston, Terrell, Chuvalo, Bonavena, etc not fought each other it would have been boring too. The fights meant something because titles and title shots were at stake now John Ruiz, James Toney, Kevin McBride, etc get title shots for doing NOTHING.

[Lords Gym]

The problem is not consistancy, fighters on all levels lack consistancy the problem is we have 4 title holders and none of the top level guys will fight each other if I was even close to the top of that division I would be calling out ANYONE and EVERYONE and calling them chickenshit or say they were hiding behind their promoter.

If the title holders and top tier guys fought each other we'd have a great division. Look at the 60's and 70's the so called "Golden Era" of heavyweights had Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Norton, Lyle, Liston, Terrell, Chuvalo, Bonavena, etc not fought each other it would have been boring too. The fights meant something because titles and title shots were at stake now John Ruiz, James Toney, Kevin McBride, etc get title shots for doing NOTHING.

Excellent point. but I still say the majority of Today’s Heavyweights look green, slow and out of shape these days. the lack of sustained action , combinations. that’s something that I see missing now . But like you say if the top guys were to fight each other , maybe that would promote better conditioning and training habits - Thanks for the reply
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[Wacko3205]

Personally...I'm okay with the heavies right now...as long as they all try to match up against Wlad.

[bigragu]

Personally...I'm okay with the heavies right now...as long as they all try to match up against Wlad.

Wlad will have the lock down for awhile because he wants to be the champ not just win to get a belt....that's the difference....they want to win and Wlad wants to DEFEND that is why the Hw division fell apart...most of these guys are just content to win and if they lose after they have the title oh well at least they won...which is why most suck balls....but Wlad actually wants to Unify along with Valuev...it could/should get exciting here in the near future for the HW division....

[Raeder]

I agree, it will get exciting soon!

[1st rd ko]

its not all that bad. rather have the period between holmes and tyson or what we have today?

[Lords Gym]

its not all that bad. rather have the period between holmes and tyson or what we have today?

That exactly what it feels like . That void between Holmes and Tyson , its just a slower more methodical version of that period. at least the lighter weights are very competitive and entertaining

[1st rd ko]

its not all that bad. rather have the period between holmes and tyson or what we have today?

That exactly what it feels like . That void between Holmes and Tyson , its just a slower more methodical version of that period. at least the lighter weights are very competitive and entertaining

no , its not that bad. who were the guys then? bone crusher , ty biggs , dokes , witherspoon,etc...think those guys could handle a wlad , nick , etc....

[Lords Gym]

its not all that bad. rather have the period between holmes and tyson or what we have today?

That exactly what it feels like . That void between Holmes and Tyson , its just a slower more methodical version of that period. at least the lighter weights are very competitive and entertaining

no , its not that bad. who were the guys then? bone crusher , ty biggs , dokes , witherspoon,etc...think those guys could handle a wlad , nick , etc....

Sure Corrie Sander handled Wlad as did Brewster.. Sure a prime Witherspoon would be in today’s mix. no doubt.

[sammiza567]

if sam peter drops about 15 pounds and learns how to actually move as he comes in he will dominate

[Lords Gym]

if sam peter drops about 15 pounds and learns how to actually move as he comes in he will dominate

I agree . Peter need to be no more like 235

[1st rd ko]

its not all that bad. rather have the period between holmes and tyson or what we have today?

That exactly what it feels like . That void between Holmes and Tyson , its just a slower more methodical version of that period. at least the lighter weights are very competitive and entertaining

no , its not that bad. who were the guys then? bone crusher , ty biggs , dokes , witherspoon,etc...think those guys could handle a wlad , nick , etc....

Sure Corrie Sander handled Wlad as did Brewster.. Sure a prime Witherspoon would be in today’s mix. no doubt. Pathetic but true ! IMO

tim w? yea , he was a 6'5" "giant" for that time. these days? nothing special size wise. that time between larry and mike? those guys would be cannon fodder for the current HWS (just my thoughts).

[Bx730NY]

I just wish Wlad would stop that holding s**t. He's too skilled to be doing that and that's the only way to know if he is indeed the best we have now. I'm a fan but I can't keep defending that. I still think he Peter would have knocked him out without the holding. He still almost did. The refs need to start taking initiative cause I've been seeing some ugly fights as of late.