Creation and evolution aside,

[Von Milash]

does God exist?

I say yes.

Discuss.

[AdamGB]

How else would I be speaking to you all?

pft...

mortals...

[Kev]

does God exist?

I say yes.

Discuss.

I agree totally.

However you saying leaving creation vs evolution aside as if they are not connected but they are.

Evolution is a scientific attempt to explain the origins of our universe according to entirely natural random processes. Any explanation of origins in our universe must automatically exlude the possibility of divine intervention.

However if you believe in God, you no longer are limited to trying to explain the impossible through random chance alone.

Evolutionary theory thus becomes redundant. The universe didn't need to wait 10 billion years before the big bang explosion had finally settled and all the debris had formed into planets handily with their own gravitational systems.

The earth didn't need to be hit by a mysterious disappearing planet around 4 billion years ago which knocked a huge chunk of it out into space to become our moon, another planet didn't need to hit Venus to start spinning it the other way all these things can now be explained as how God made things to be.

Apes didn't have to hang around in trees for a million years before they became intelligent enough to climb down and start walking upright.

So my own belief is that if you belief in God you automatically should no longer believe in evolution.

Imagine saying well yeah I know Michaelangelo existed but I don't think he sculpted David to look that way, I think what he actually did was dropped a huge marble slab out of a high window, then tying a rope around one end he dragged it through the cobbled streets of Venice for 15 years until it started to take a man like apperance.

Then he proceded to throw rocks at it and leave it out in the rain for another 4 years until the features started to become recognisable.

Finally when it looked like David he polished it off and gave it a rub down, stood back and thought to himself, 'Good Job' :P

[Munkymagic]

No he doesn't

Ive given my explanation in the creation v evolutions thread.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

However if you believe in God, you no longer are limited to trying to explain the impossible through random chance alone.

Believing that God created everything is pretty limiting, don't ya think?


Life is not impossible, it's not a miracle.

[Fenster]

God only exist's in the minds of people that NEED answers to unanswerable questions.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

ooh nice.

[raleights]

You ignorant fools, God has taken a mortal form!



Hope this helps

[Von Milash]

No he doesn't

Ive given my explanation in the creation v evolutions thread.

do you believe in ghosts?

[X]

Define "god" first

[Von Milash]

you know, lord over all, creator of the universe, etc.

ok, is there an after-life? or when you go, what's there? blackness?

[Munkymagic]

No he doesn't

Ive given my explanation in the creation v evolutions thread.

do you believe in ghosts?

Not sure. I am a huge scpetic...until one apprears in front of me i'd have to say no.

[Von Milash]

well how bout this. there have been 4 sightings by 4 people in my mom's house. all saw the same thing but never discussed it until years later. I have never seen it but I've heard thngs so "real" that the one time I was too scared to move, and the second time I actually thought it was my mom walking in the room above me. But she wasn't home. And this was when I was about 26 so it wasn't my imagination.

[Von Milash]

another time, I shit you not, I bought my dad a remote controlled car for christmas. well, on Christmas night the thing actually started driving by itself. I swear it. People thought it was me fooling around but I actually held the controller up and said "look, it aint me." Too weird.

so if there are ghosts, there's another dimension, and possibly a heaven and God. No? Possible?

[Kev]

The thing I don't get about ghosts though is that people reprt them doing silly things like driving a remote controlled car!

I mean why would a ghost want to that?