I think the word that best fits all these excuses being made for Joe is 'rubbish'.....
I think the word that best fits all these excuses being made for Joe is 'rubbish'.....
You and i and everyone else here can't say either way in all honesty mate
Who knows what goes down behind closed doors in the world of the promoters?,Warren swears RJJ priced himself out of a fight a few years back,Jones camp say the opposite etc.
Annoying really because it's us who miss out on some great fights ultimately
True.Originally Posted by Smashup
Boxing politics hate them, really.....
Blimey! Ever heard of the word subtleOriginally Posted by wacko3205
Miles post just about summed it up
3-Time SADDO PREDICTION COMP CHAMPION.
Their recent comments would suggest otherwiseOriginally Posted by wacko3205
Now that Joe and Frank are talking about Kessler, and Kessler about Jones Jr, does that make them the good guys and Kessler a twat?
I doubt it.
When God said to the both of us "Which one of you wants to be Sugar Ray?" I guess I didnt raise my hand fast enough
Charley Burley
Oh the irony
The fight wont happen on neutral ground, smashOriginally Posted by Smashup
Both of them have never fought in the States, they've only just got exposure on American TV and why would massive promoters like FW and Mogens Palle take the fight away from a guarateed 20,000+ punters
3-Time SADDO PREDICTION COMP CHAMPION.
Originally Posted by Fenster
Irony indeed
hahaha
But which punters
That will be some haggle for home turf mate!
I was lucky enough to meet Peter Manfredo in Newcastle last Saturday , through his Wild Card sparring partner Craig McEwan . He came across as a really nice lad . He was polite and friendly to everyone who spoke to him , signing autographs and posing for photographs . Peter is really up for Calzaghe and genuinely fancies his chances ( which you would expect ) .The real clue was in my chat to Craig . He says that Manfredo`s improvement over the last six weeks has been amazing . There is a general feeling at Wild Card that Manfredo has progressed greatly in the last twelve months and that he is ready to step up in class. They also believe that Lacy was overated and that , anyway , he didn`t turn up against Calzaghe.Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
While I take on board all the stuff about Calzaghe being world class , 10 - 1 Manfredo , come on , thats got to be worth a bet !
IF the fight happens it'll happen hereOriginally Posted by Smashup
3-Time SADDO PREDICTION COMP CHAMPION.
I've never really bought into the whole idea that a British fighter, or just a foreign fighter in general, has to come to the United States. Unless he just can't make big fights in his home country, and I don't think that's the case for Calzaghe. He's the man at 168, unless you're talking about a huge name like a Hopkins, then there's no reason for Calzaghe to go anywhere, guys at 168, including Kessler, should come to him.
But this fight is shit, and its coming off of another bullshit fight. Calzaghe's gotta understand that after this he has to step up, even some of his biggest backers on here are obviously getting tired of it.
Honestly...as for Kess being a twat for wanting Jones? Nope...I read that Kessler was hunting down a big name due to the fact that "the Big Name" had no intentions of manning up.Originally Posted by Memphis
Trust me...HBO made this shit happen. I hate to put it like this, being a fan of Joe, but saying that Kessler was not a big enough name or that Kessler was not a worthy fight is just bullshit.
Sorry...but it is. You know that & I know that.
Had he (Joe) & Warren made some headway with/against Hopkins or Taylor & taken that fights that would have been one thing...bailing on a Kess fight for a Manfredo fight is just wack.
Again...I am sure that all the pressure from the community as a whole got the ball running against Kess...now I'd be curious to see if Joe could perform to his maximum abilities against the Danish youngin.
I was super gotdam duper impressed with his performance against Lacy. Another one like that or even remotely close would indeed be career defining.
Kessler has a better set of tricks than Lacy does & when power fails him he has a back up plan. I truely believe that power will fail him & he'll have the fight of his life against Joe...but the same could be said of Calzaghe in the end.
It's a great match up that I will be thrilled to see...but I doubt that we get it on the time frame we all are being led to believe.
Joe will fwock his hands up against Manfredo...watch & see.
Never beg a 40 dollar hooker...specially after she's just turned down your mom's credit card!!
I agree. I don't think so either...but when you start saying that you will go over & above the call to make the matches, swim the pond, take the lesser purse, blah blah blah...then do it...don't bullshit us & say that you want it & then don't answer the call.Originally Posted by OumaFan
Very well stated.Originally Posted by OumaFan
Never beg a 40 dollar hooker...specially after she's just turned down your mom's credit card!!
lets just be honest here...
if you wanna fight a fighter whos strength was his athletic ability who is now old and not as athletic you are going to have to give him as much money as he wants, or else you never honestley wanted the fight
roy jones was the greatest fighter of all time and even now he would KTFO3 calzahe, but he would have to actually try a little cuz he isnt as fast now, so he should get whatever amount he wants
If you think RJJ would KO Joe Calzaghe as his recent performances have suggested, I would request that you share some of that fine strong South American dope you're on. The argument that you should give a big name as much money as he wants to make a fight is bs, cause otherwise we'l just end up with Foreman making a comeback and B-Hop sticking around until he's 50, which he might do anyway. At the end of the day, the champion is the one who should get the biggest cut, because he's champion, and if you've earned the world title, then you've earned the right to take the biggest cut against a fighter who isn't bringing anything but a name to a fight.Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
Where did you read that?Originally Posted by wacko3205
I read that "The big name" wants the fight but Kessler has now turned his attention to old man Jones Jr, go figure
When God said to the both of us "Which one of you wants to be Sugar Ray?" I guess I didnt raise my hand fast enough
Charley Burley
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