If you think Ricky has the style to do it, why not Cotto? Cotto has a similar style, swarmer, body puncher, probably more power. Just curious what you think.Originally Posted by yoitsdan
If you think Ricky has the style to do it, why not Cotto? Cotto has a similar style, swarmer, body puncher, probably more power. Just curious what you think.Originally Posted by yoitsdan
I'm a big Cotto fan. I think Ricky vs. Cotto would be an better fight. I'm a huge Hatton fan too. Think Cotto could sneak it, but it'd be close.Originally Posted by SeanE
Hatton wins at 140, Cotto at 147 IMO
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it's definitely mosely for me. He is the faster and stronger version of oscar really very dangerous for floyd, much like oscar iam still in doubt with mosely's stamina late in the game because in this bout pbf will be in full throttle chicken mode knowing that it's too dangerous for him to get caught up with a heated exchange against a focused mosely because he throws really fast and strong combinations and one or two will very likely land hard to floyd, but if pbf is in full throttle chicken mode he is always ready to back up which is where he is really good at and with that exceptional skill i don't think any amount of speed and power of mosely will matter anyway. he'll all lose it sooner or later at the later rounds.
Mosely, will need to borrow Manny pacquiao's godly endurance and heart if he intends to stop or at least outpoint mayweather in full throttle chicken mode. even then, it's still not a guaranteed win for him but at the very least the probability in getting it is infinitely higher.
Realistically, nobody stands a chance against Floyd Mayweather right now. He will continue to deflect punches with his shoulder roll technique, he will continue to dance and backpedal while blasting his opponent with one punch counters and he will continue to get unanimous decisions that many people will criticize him for "running away" from his opponents and not really earning.
He should stay in the game however and get those lopsided unanimous decisions(that he will most surely win) against the top welters of his time like Mosley, Cotto, Margarito and possibly Paul Williams or Hatton. One thing is for sure...Mayweather has earned the right to sit back and watch the outcomes of Williams/Margarito, Hatton/Castillo, and Cotto/Judah, then take on the winning fighters accordingly to prove he is without a doubt the most dominant and unbeatable boxer of his time. But his style wont change. Whether he beats Sugar Shane, Margarito, or Miguel Cotto, expect him to do it in the same defensive, stick-and-move slick boxing style in which he has outpointed all his other opponents as of late...
Exactly mate, thing is, Cotto is too big to make it down to 140 again without causing him trouble and Ricks getting that way too, he should move up after Castillo because he looked really drained againsed Urango. He has been at L Welter since he was 18! the body naturally gets bigger in 10 years and its silly to try and stay at the weight.Originally Posted by BIG H
really because i have all of floyd's fight's and not once during post fight interviews has he ever mentioned shane mosely except after the baldomir fight...after judah, no shane, after gatti no shane, after mitchell no shane, after brusseles no shane, after chop-chop no shane, it wasn't until shane's career was publicly rejuvenated by stopping vargas twice did pbf mention shane and even then he dismissed him as desperate...which is weird...and anyone who says that shane duck floyd isn't that on par just because shane says he wants a tune up at a new weight before taking on the p4p best that really ducking..shane needed to see if he could still be effective at 147 after being up at 154 for so long...besides shane fights anyone who is willing...and right now i feel like playing prophet..shane mosely stops the winner of of cotto-judah....Originally Posted by SweetPea
"Sixty forty I kicks yo' ass, Sixty forty I tears yo' ass up" - Roy Jones
...at 154, hands down it's Shane a guy who can make 154 easy and not lose any speed and he has good power and he's a great fighter when it comes to number of punches thrown....he's not gunshy at all.
Guys at 147 and 154 needed to realize that their power (especially ODH, Shane, and Cotto, and maybe even Paul Williams) is enough to hurt Floyd even if they focus it on his arms (which is what I would do). Floyd's head movement and quickness are too much for most fighters but when you get rid of his defense he's a NOBODY! His power can't really do much at 147 and up and he doesn't throw a ton of punches anymore.....you smack his arms enough and he'll drop his guard or he won't be able to fight back.
well floyd doesn't just use his hands as defence he mostly uses his shoulder, and a lot of body movement and feet...and how much time would you waste trying to hit his arms after you get countered about fifty times...the trade off isn't worth it beside he'll eventually just move his whole body out of the way if the arm beating strategy was taking effect..Originally Posted by Lyle
"Sixty forty I kicks yo' ass, Sixty forty I tears yo' ass up" - Roy Jones
Yep and when you get rid of Marcianos power he is a nobody too, and if you get rid of Wlads chin he is a....... Oh wait a minute Wlad dosent have a chinOriginally Posted by Lyle
I'm just stating a strategy...it's different than anything anyone else has done....Floyd dodges and ducks but his arms and body don't move like his head and therefore are easier to hit.
If Oscar hit Floyd in the arms as hard as he could for 12 rounds what is the worst that could happen
Wlad's chin may be soft but not as soft as Floyd's hands
I'm just breaking your stones You know I got nothing but Love for Saddo's Southern Gentleman.... But I do it because you unfairly take shots at Floyd, at least put on a convincing argument that dosent indeed incriminate your Favorites too...Originally Posted by Lyle
I think leonard would knock him out, hearns would to. Sugar ray robinson would knock him out. possibly Duran. I wish that these fighters fought during this era.
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I would agree also had the fight happened about 3 or 4 years ago. Would be a good fight nevertheless.Originally Posted by GAME
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