Take these twenty guys and make a list, be quick about it

[OumaFan]

I'm bored, I'm home for Christmas with nothing to do, this forum is boring me, all of you individually are boring me.

Make a list, a pound for pound top twenty with these twenty fighters so I don't have to stoop to reading the thread about Roy Jones dogfighting or start searching the internet for the documentary about Paulie Malignaggi (they made a documentary about Paulie Malignaggi, WTF)

Sort it out, these twenty fighters, one through twenty

Kelly Pavlik
JMM
Joan Guzman
Floyd Mayweather
Bernard Hopkins
Rafael Marquez
Israel Vazquez
Joe Calzaghe
Winky Wright
Nonito Donaire
Christian Mijares
Manny Pacquaio
Miguel Cotto
Juan Diaz
Ivan Calderon
Ricky Hatton
Mikkel Kessler
Shane Mosley
Jermain Taylor

Those are the guys, maybe I forgot somebody obvious but that's the list. There are some guys who maybe could be on there-Chad Dawson, Cory Spinks, Linares, Paul Williams, Carl Froch ( ), Wlad (not in the mood for heavyweights)-but that's the list. I'm sure El Gamo will think where's Takefumi Sakata but nobody knows who Sakata is so just chill the fuck out Gamo.

[Kev]

Floyd Mayweather
Manny Pacquaio
Joe Calzaghe
JMM
Bernard Hopkins
Miguel Cotto
Israel Vazquez
Rafael Marquez
Winky Wright
Ivan Calderon
Juan Diaz
Kelly Pavlik
Ricky Hatton
Joan Guzman
Jermain Taylor
Shane Mosley
Mikkel Kessler
Nonito Donaire
Christian Mijares

That's my list. Not sure if Cotto belongs above or below R Marquez and Vazquez. Initially I put him below but then put him higher on account of his unbeaten status.

I'm not sure. He looks like the man at welterweight and beat a legend in Mosely but I'm not sure if an old Mosely is better than beating R Marquez or I Vazquez or vice versa. I'd certainly have no disagreements with anyone either way,

Calzaghe HAS to be top 3 though I simply will not listen to arguments regarding ranking him below 3rd place.

I decided to drop Hatton out of the top 10 but I'm sure some will stil put him in the last two spots and thrown out Winky Wright. I think Winky should stay though, losing on points at 170 lbs to another p4p star is no reason to be dumped from the p4p spot he held before.

Pavlik will most certainly hit the top 10 if he beats Jermain Taylor in their rematch but I cannot give him a spot now considering he has yet to even make a successful title defense yet.

I certainly think he deserves a spot but not above lesser known but no less acomplished fighters like Ivan Calderon a double weight world champ and unbeaten, and Juan Diaz a two time world champ also unbeaten.

Mijares and Donaire are at the bottom of the list for me as beating Jorge Arc and Vic Darchinyan doesn't put you into the p4p rankings.

Guzman is borderline top 10 imo a double weight world champ and one of my favourite boxers to watche.

Oh yeah and F*** El Gamo

[ross]

Joe should be at least 2nd, Pacquiao hasnt really done much to prove hes any better than Joe or Floyd this year, Floyd has beaten a good light middle and good light welter, Floyd is good but it is frustrating how he never fights the top man in his own division.

Joe has capped an unbelievable run being the top man in the division for 10 years by beating THE hot young prospect in not only supermiddle but boxing

[ICB]

I'm bored, I'm home for Christmas with nothing to do, this forum is boring me, all of you individually are boring me.

Make a list, a pound for pound top twenty with these twenty fighters so I don't have to stoop to reading the thread about Roy Jones dogfighting or start searching the internet for the documentary about Paulie Malignaggi (they made a documentary about Paulie Malignaggi, WTF)

Sort it out, these twenty fighters, one through twenty

Kelly Pavlik
JMM
Joan Guzman
Floyd Mayweather
Bernard Hopkins
Rafael Marquez
Israel Vazquez
Joe Calzaghe
Winky Wright
Nonito Donaire
Christian Mijares
Manny Pacquaio
Miguel Cotto
Juan Diaz
Ivan Calderon
Ricky Hatton
Mikkel Kessler
Shane Mosley
Jermain Taylor

Those are the guys, maybe I forgot somebody obvious but that's the list. There are some guys who maybe could be on there-Chad Dawson, Cory Spinks, Linares, Paul Williams, Carl Froch ( ), Wlad (not in the mood for heavyweights)-but that's the list. I'm sure El Gamo will think where's Takefumi Sakata but nobody knows who Sakata is so just chill the F*** out Gamo.

1 Floyd Mayweather
2 Manny Pacquiao
3 Joe Calzaghe
4 Bernard Hopkins
5 Juan Manuel Marquez
6 Miguel Cotto
7 Israel Vasquez
8 Rafael Marquez
9 Ivan Calderon
10 Juan Diaz
11 Kelly Pavlik
12 Winky Wright
13 Ricky Hatton
14 Joan Guzman
15 Jermain Taylor
16 Shane Mosley
17 Mikkel Kessler
18 Christian Mijares
19 Chris John
20 Nonito Donaire

That was 19 boxers not 20 i threw in Chris John at 19 i couldn't really think though.

[ono]

Good call Ouma

I have been offline for about 4 days and i was expecting to come back to loads of great posts to comment on....but it's all been rather quiet.

So actually this is the only one thats interested me....



1: Mayweather
2: Calzaghe
3: Pacman
4: Hopkins
5: JMM
6: Vasquez
7: R Marquez
8: Miguel Cotto
9: Ricky Hatton
10: Ivan Calderon
11: Winky
12: Kelly Pavlik
13: Juan Diaz
14: Guzman
15: JT
16: Donaire
17: Kessler
18: Mijares
19: David Haye
20: Mosley

There was only 19 on your list

Anyways probs a lot of holes to pick in that list but i basically just copied Bilbo's.....so blame him :P

Just kidding.

I'm open to anybody saying Hatton aint top ten but i'm a fanboy so i show considerable bias.

[gudnite vienna]

Hopkins above Calzaghe ICB i just dont get it explain!

[ICB]

Hopkins above Calzaghe ICB i just dont get it explain!

1 Floyd Mayweather
2 Manny Pacquiao
3 Joe Calzaghe
4 Bernard Hopkins
5 Juan Manuel Marquez
6 Miguel Cotto
7 Israel Vasquez
8 Rafael Marquez
9 Ivan Calderon
10 Juan Diaz
11 Kelly Pavlik
12 Winky Wright
13 Ricky Hatton
14 Joan Guzman
15 Jermain Taylor
16 Shane Mosley
17 Mikkel Kessler
18 Christian Mijares
19 Chris John
20 Nonito Donaire

[OumaFan]

Fucking counting

Allright so who should be the twentieth, i'll edit the post

I see votes for Chris John, David Haye, there's also Spinks, Paul Williams, Linares, or maybe I could indulge Gamo's sick obsession with Takefumi Sakata.

[ICB]

F****** counting

Allright so who should be the twentieth, i'll edit the post

I see votes for Chris John, David Haye, there's also Spinks, Paul Williams, Linares, or maybe I could indulge Gamo's sick obsession with Takefumi Sakata.

I think Chris John should be there somewhere to be honest, his opposition may be questionable. But he has a win over Marquez, yes it was controversial and i thought Marquez won but a wins a win. Plus Chris John has made 7 defense, plus he is 40-0.

[No Contest]

Hmm, thats funny, I think these threads are boring. Go figure..... I'm not worried about rankings because they dont seem to matter much for matchmaking anymore.... I would be interested in doing a Saddos pound for pound list by division, top 10's then we could compare em to the organizations rankings. Frankly, these lists are just pissing contests about your opinion. Unless your name is Jose Suliaman I dont give a fuck.

[OumaFan]

Allright, the twentieth pick is like your joker pick, you can put whoever you want in there. You could even put Carl Froch in there.

[ono]

Allright, the twentieth pick is like your joker pick, you can put whoever you want in there. You could even put Carl Froch in there.

Now that would be a joker's pick

Ba-Dum

[Kev]

For what it's worth my twentieth would be Oscar De La Hoya. He showed against Floyd he's still world class and a cut above Ricky Hatton.

I think Cory Spink, Vernon Forrest and Chris John are the biggest rivals for the 20th spot.

I don't think Haye has done enough yet although if he beats Enzo I'd say he makes top 20.

[OumaFan]

For what it's worth my twentieth would be Oscar De La Hoya. He showed against Floyd he's still world class and a cut above Ricky Hatton.

I think Cory Spink, Vernon Forrest and Chris John are the biggest rivals for the 20th spot.

I don't think Haye has done enough yet although if he beats Enzo I'd say he makes top 20.

For some reason Oscar didn't even cross my mind. I guess for a few years now I've just thought of him as a part time celebrity boxer but he is still a good fighter.

[Sugar_Shaw]

Floyd Mayweather
Manny Pacquaio
Bernard Hopkins
Joe Calzaghe
JMM
Kelly Pavlik
Israel Vazquez
Rafael Marquez
Miguel Cotto
Ricky Hatton
Ivan Calderon
Juan Diaz
Mikkel Kessler
Shane Mosley
Nonito Donaire
Christian Mijares
Winky Wright
Joan Guzman
Jermain Taylor
Chris John


Honourable Mentions:
De La Hoya
Cazares
Edwin Valero