Originally Posted by
Iron Mike
He doesnt HAVE to be done, but he SHOULD be done.
What's left for him?
Another loss just stings a bit more and lessens his record with another L.
I can't think of a meaningful/realistic win that would do anything to enhance his legacy, such as it is.
Couple things: I been reading this site for weeks, and it's awesome. But some of you are crazy looking back through time with your rose colored goggles on.
Joe Calzaghe won that fight. Period. The judge who had Bernard up four rounds -- well that's las Vegas for you. There's always one dumbass judge that just seems to see the fight completely different. It's a risk you take when you can't knock someone out.
That said, I maintain that Joe CORTES is a reasonably good referee, and some of you are forgetting how GOOD Hopkins is at getting away with shenanigans just out of sight of the ref. Try to count how many times he held Joe's left hand after a punch for the next five seconds ON THE SIDE AWAY FROM CORTES.
I want to tip my hat to Hopkins just on account of how brilliantly DIRTY he is. It's an art form with this guy, but cheap is cheap and I think its despicable. Classy fighters that don't want to get hit, Floyd Mayweather and James Toney, employ any number of tricks to avoid punishment without all the cheap crap.
Caveat: Floyd was a dirty SOB in the Hatton fight. Im still conflicted about this, as Ricky is no walk through the tulips in the 'fight clean' category, so I think it was more shock than anything to see the tables turned on Hatton by Mayweather of all people. That said, I think Joe let Floyd get away with too much. I think he let Bernard get away with too much.
But Bernard did not win that fight. Beautiful right in the first round put Joe on his ass. Hopkins continued to do well for a few more rounds. It was all Calzaghe all the way down the stretch though, and no amount of clever wordplay will change it.
I would like to see Joe fight Roy Jones, the man who, even in a slightly diminished capacity, has the speed to make this fight a corker.
Pavlik has great ninja power, but he has nowhere near the strange angles and disruptive offense of a Joe Calzaghe. I see Pavlik hitting the deck around 9 or 10 from a long, slow beating.
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