Cotto v Margarito: great fight but will it be a great event?

[El Gamo]

Cotto vs. Margarito: a Great Fight but will it be a Great Event?

Excellent read.

[Kel]

Was a good read cheers man.

How do you predict this one? I think Cotto is gonna have to use his boxing skills to win this one, but he is giving away reach and height. Cotto can be hurt and I think Margarito will hurt him, then what? With his workrate Cotto will be on the back foot a lot.

I have only seen a handfull of Margarito fights and from what I see it's pointless trying to KO him. Has he ever been hurt to the body?

This fights too far away. Can't wait

[El Gamo]

IU've been harping on about this fight for about 1year and a half!!! My 2 fave fighters and the 2 best WW. I was very very confident that Margarito would win but I've had to re-evaluate as of late. 2 things:

Margarito has never had to face a jab as good sa Cotto's and a jab can stop/hinder anyone.

Cotto's handspeed will trouble Tony.

However, I still favour Marg,based on the factors mentioned: size,power, and workrate. If Cotto wants to box,Tony will cut the ring off. If he wants to brawl,he'll have to take alot to give alot:Marg is the quintessential Mexican warrior,take 2 to give 1 type guy. The main punches will be the uppercuts of Tony and Cottos bodyshots. However, just because Cotto is smaller,doesn't make him better on the inside, as Tony is an awesome inside fighter.

I'll tell you what would win this fight: if Margarito had a good jab. if he learnt how to pump a good,strong jab,he would beat Cotto's ass.The reach advantage would be too much. I'm taking Tony via stoppage,jab or no jab,too big,too strong and too much to lose.

[GAME]

IU've been harping on about this fight for about 1year and a half!!! My 2 fave fighters and the 2 best WW. I was very very confident that Margarito would win but I've had to re-evaluate as of late. 2 things:

Margarito has never had to face a jab as good sa Cotto's and a jab can stop/hinder anyone.

Cotto's handspeed will trouble Tony.

However, I still favour Marg,based on the factors mentioned: size,power, and workrate. If Cotto wants to box,Tony will cut the ring off. If he wants to brawl,he'll have to take alot to give alot:Marg is the quintessential Mexican warrior,take 2 to give 1 type guy. The main punches will be the uppercuts of Tony and Cottos bodyshots. However, just because Cotto is smaller,doesn't make him better on the inside, as Tony is an awesome inside fighter.

I'll tell you what would win this fight: if Margarito had a good jab. if he learnt how to pump a good,strong jab,he would beat Cotto's ass.The reach advantage would be too much. I'm taking Tony via stoppage,jab or no jab,too big,too strong and too much to lose.

I'd have to disagree there. I think Cotto is top dog at 147 and that includes Mayweather. Tony got outboxed by Williams who has since lost to a Cotto leftover . Now Cotto will outbox Margarito . If he doesnt feel he can knock him out he will choose to do it the easy way . Whatever happens I cant see Tony winning .

[ICB]

IU've been harping on about this fight for about 1year and a half!!! My 2 fave fighters and the 2 best WW. I was very very confident that Margarito would win but I've had to re-evaluate as of late. 2 things:

Margarito has never had to face a jab as good sa Cotto's and a jab can stop/hinder anyone.

Cotto's handspeed will trouble Tony.

However, I still favour Marg,based on the factors mentioned: size,power, and workrate. If Cotto wants to box,Tony will cut the ring off. If he wants to brawl,he'll have to take alot to give alot:Marg is the quintessential Mexican warrior,take 2 to give 1 type guy. The main punches will be the uppercuts of Tony and Cottos bodyshots. However, just because Cotto is smaller,doesn't make him better on the inside, as Tony is an awesome inside fighter.

I'll tell you what would win this fight: if Margarito had a good jab. if he learnt how to pump a good,strong jab,he would beat Cotto's ass.The reach advantage would be too much. I'm taking Tony via stoppage,jab or no jab,too big,too strong and too much to lose.

I'd have to disagree there. I think Cotto is top dog at 147 and that includes Mayweather. Tony got outboxed by Williams who has since lost to a Cotto leftover . Now Cotto will outbox Margarito . If he doesnt feel he can knock him out he will choose to do it the easy way . Whatever happens I cant see Tony winning .

Margarito wasn't in top form against Williams plus Williams gave Margarito problems because of his work rate, height, punching angles etc. Cotto won't give Margarito the same problems Williams did, and just because Williams lost to a guy Cotto beat in impressive fashion means nothing, and you should know better than that Game, boxing is all about Rock, Paper, Scissors.

Although saying that i think Cotto wins tough UD he has superior boxing skills, shorter hooks which is a key factor in exchanges because that will allow Cotto to win exchanges against Margarito's much wider hooks, plus Cotto has better foot work than the slow plodding Margarito, has better hand speed than the mediocre hand speed of Margarito. Plus i would like to see how Margarito reacts to Cotto's body shots, Margarito has been decked by body shots before and yes i know it was early in his career but still since that no one has really tested his mid section to my knowledge so that will be interesting to see how Margarito reacts.

Margarito will give Cotto some problems with his work rate, uppercut, and his good ability at trapping opponents on the ropes where he does his best work. I like Margarito but if Cotto uses his boxing skills and fights smart i can see Cotto clearly winning tough UD by at least 3 or 4 rounds. Cotto is a smarter fighter than Margarito and i believe Cotto is smart enough to box for 12 rounds, remember he is a patient fighter and has improved greatly since his reckless fights with Torres, Corley.

[Taeth]

I don't see Cotto having problems at all with the slow, poorly taught Margarito, I think Margarito is one of those guys who can come out as a tough indestructible guy who will eventually beat you up, but the best fighters in the division like Cotto, MAyweather, Mosley, etc. who keep sharp for 12 rounds will make him look silly.

If Mayweather still doesn't fight Cotto after this I would like to see Cotto face Clottey or Berto if he's ready.

[GAME]

IU've been harping on about this fight for about 1year and a half!!! My 2 fave fighters and the 2 best WW. I was very very confident that Margarito would win but I've had to re-evaluate as of late. 2 things:

Margarito has never had to face a jab as good sa Cotto's and a jab can stop/hinder anyone.

Cotto's handspeed will trouble Tony.

However, I still favour Marg,based on the factors mentioned: size,power, and workrate. If Cotto wants to box,Tony will cut the ring off. If he wants to brawl,he'll have to take alot to give alot:Marg is the quintessential Mexican warrior,take 2 to give 1 type guy. The main punches will be the uppercuts of Tony and Cottos bodyshots. However, just because Cotto is smaller,doesn't make him better on the inside, as Tony is an awesome inside fighter.

I'll tell you what would win this fight: if Margarito had a good jab. if he learnt how to pump a good,strong jab,he would beat Cotto's ass.The reach advantage would be too much. I'm taking Tony via stoppage,jab or no jab,too big,too strong and too much to lose.

I'd have to disagree there. I think Cotto is top dog at 147 and that includes Mayweather. Tony got outboxed by Williams who has since lost to a Cotto leftover . Now Cotto will outbox Margarito . If he doesnt feel he can knock him out he will choose to do it the easy way . Whatever happens I cant see Tony winning .

Margarito wasn't in top form against Williams plus Williams gave Margarito problems because of his work rate, height, punching angles etc. Cotto won't give Margarito the same problems Williams did, and just because Williams lost to a guy Cotto beat in impressive fashion means nothing, and you should know better than that Game, boxing is all about Rock, Paper, Scissors.

Although saying that i think Cotto wins tough UD he has superior boxing skills, shorter hooks which is a key factor in exchanges because that will allow Cotto to win exchanges against Margarito's much wider hooks, plus Cotto has better foot work than the slow plodding Margarito, has better hand speed than the mediocre hand speed of Margarito. Plus i would like to see how Margarito reacts to Cotto's body shots, Margarito has been decked by body shots before and yes i know it was early in his career but still since that no one has really tested his mid section to my knowledge so that will be interesting to see how Margarito reacts.

Margarito will give Cotto some problems with his work rate, uppercut, and his good ability at trapping opponents on the ropes where he does his best work. I like Margarito but if Cotto uses his boxing skills and fights smart i can see Cotto clearly winning tough UD by at least 3 or 4 rounds. Cotto is a smarter fighter than Margarito and i believe Cotto is smart enough to box for 12 rounds, remember he is a patient fighter and has improved greatly since his reckless fights with Torres, Corley.

I never said it did mean everything but I was just making the point about levels. As you said Tony has been decked by lesser men with body shots and although Tony showed a decent chin vs Cintron, the peurto Rican was a head hunter . This peurto rican knows that if he kills the body the head will follow.

Also I think skills have alot to do with it. Whilst I dont want to sound dismissive of Tony , I do belive that Judah and Mosley had superior speed and skills to him but they ended up finishing 2nd best to Cotto . It will go 12 but the best man will win . . . you know that ICB

[gyrokai]

IU've been harping on about this fight for about 1year and a half!!! My 2 fave fighters and the 2 best WW. I was very very confident that Margarito would win but I've had to re-evaluate as of late. 2 things:

Margarito has never had to face a jab as good sa Cotto's and a jab can stop/hinder anyone.

Cotto's handspeed will trouble Tony.

However, I still favour Marg,based on the factors mentioned: size,power, and workrate. If Cotto wants to box,Tony will cut the ring off. If he wants to brawl,he'll have to take alot to give alot:Marg is the quintessential Mexican warrior,take 2 to give 1 type guy. The main punches will be the uppercuts of Tony and Cottos bodyshots. However, just because Cotto is smaller,doesn't make him better on the inside, as Tony is an awesome inside fighter.

I'll tell you what would win this fight: if Margarito had a good jab. if he learnt how to pump a good,strong jab,he would beat Cotto's ass.The reach advantage would be too much. I'm taking Tony via stoppage,jab or no jab,too big,too strong and too much to lose.

You forget the ONE and most important factor in favor of Cotto's abilities...

CLUTCH The man has it, no boxing fan has seen Cotto faulter from it.

Cotto is clutch.

[El Gamo]

IU've been harping on about this fight for about 1year and a half!!! My 2 fave fighters and the 2 best WW. I was very very confident that Margarito would win but I've had to re-evaluate as of late. 2 things:

Margarito has never had to face a jab as good sa Cotto's and a jab can stop/hinder anyone.

Cotto's handspeed will trouble Tony.

However, I still favour Marg,based on the factors mentioned: size,power, and workrate. If Cotto wants to box,Tony will cut the ring off. If he wants to brawl,he'll have to take alot to give alot:Marg is the quintessential Mexican warrior,take 2 to give 1 type guy. The main punches will be the uppercuts of Tony and Cottos bodyshots. However, just because Cotto is smaller,doesn't make him better on the inside, as Tony is an awesome inside fighter.

I'll tell you what would win this fight: if Margarito had a good jab. if he learnt how to pump a good,strong jab,he would beat Cotto's ass.The reach advantage would be too much. I'm taking Tony via stoppage,jab or no jab,too big,too strong and too much to lose.

You forget the ONE and most important factor in favor of Cotto's abilities...

CLUTCH The man has it, no boxing fan has seen Cotto faulter from it.

Cotto is clutch.

What the heck is clutch my man? And where you been?

[ICB]

IU've been harping on about this fight for about 1year and a half!!! My 2 fave fighters and the 2 best WW. I was very very confident that Margarito would win but I've had to re-evaluate as of late. 2 things:

Margarito has never had to face a jab as good sa Cotto's and a jab can stop/hinder anyone.

Cotto's handspeed will trouble Tony.

However, I still favour Marg,based on the factors mentioned: size,power, and workrate. If Cotto wants to box,Tony will cut the ring off. If he wants to brawl,he'll have to take alot to give alot:Marg is the quintessential Mexican warrior,take 2 to give 1 type guy. The main punches will be the uppercuts of Tony and Cottos bodyshots. However, just because Cotto is smaller,doesn't make him better on the inside, as Tony is an awesome inside fighter.

I'll tell you what would win this fight: if Margarito had a good jab. if he learnt how to pump a good,strong jab,he would beat Cotto's ass.The reach advantage would be too much. I'm taking Tony via stoppage,jab or no jab,too big,too strong and too much to lose.

You forget the ONE and most important factor in favor of Cotto's abilities...

CLUTCH The man has it, no boxing fan has seen Cotto faulter from it.

Cotto is clutch.

What the heck is clutch my man? And where you been?

Clutch means good at winning under pressure.

[Fenster]

Cotto vs. Margarito: a Great Fight but will it be a Great Event?

Excellent read.

Hey this is what i was saying in the other thread.

All-Latino fights don't do great numbers - surprisingly/unfortunately.

Great fight for us (hardcore) BUT will get overlooked by the casuals.


SO... fuck the casuals

[cockey cockney]

i honestly think Cotto will pick him apart....the skill divide here is HUGE IMO! Maybe even stop him late on but im pretty certain Cotto will win this.

[OumaFan]

Cotto. And I think he'll look good overall. Said why too many times to type it all out again.

Not even sure why I'm posting here.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Im going with Margarito. Provided he comes out firing, I think it will come down to one thing: Margarito WILL check that chin eventually.

I see a stoppage win for Tony.

[bcollins]

I'm sitting on the fence for who I think will win - I change my mind a lot - but I think it will be an outstanding event. I bet this one doesn't disappoint.