Chad Dawson/Kelly Pavlik/Roy Jones/Joe Calzaghe

[ICB]

Some people have pointed out including me that if Joe Calzaghe, fought and beat Kelly Pavlik. People would then be demanding Joe Calzaghe vs Chad Dawson.

Then it struck me what if Kelly Pavlik and Chad Dawson win there next fights. Then why not Kelly Pavlik and Chad Dawson, fight it out to determine who really deserves a shot at Joe Calzaghe vs Roy Jones winner ?

[Taeth]

Because if Pavlik gets by Hopkins which there is a good chance he won't, he wouldn't stnad a chance agaisnt Dawson, Glen Johnson has a great chin, and could walk through Dawson's punches, but Pavlik wouldn't be able to, and Dawson would be the fastest, and biggest guy he would have ever foughten.

[ICB]

Because if Pavlik gets by Hopkins which there is a good chance he won't, he wouldn't stnad a chance agaisnt Dawson, Glen Johnson has a great chin, and could walk through Dawson's punches, but Pavlik wouldn't be able to, and Dawson would be the fastest, and biggest guy he would have ever foughten.

How do you think Chad Dawson vs Joe Calzaghe would go ?

[Taeth]

Differently because Calzaghe has a better chin then Pavlik, he is faster then Pavlik, and he is just as busy as Pavlik. I think speed and chin are the issue Pavlik has with Dawson. Dawson has a respectable punch for a LHW, and he probably has the fastest hands in the division.

[RozzySean]

Because if Pavlik gets by Hopkins which there is a good chance he won't, he wouldn't stnad a chance agaisnt Dawson, Glen Johnson has a great chin, and could walk through Dawson's punches, but Pavlik wouldn't be able to, and Dawson would be the fastest, and biggest guy he would have ever foughten.

First of all, Dawson needs to get past Tarver, which he might not. Second of all, Dawson isn't exactly known for his punching power. Third, Dawson is has chin questions of his own, and he is very hittable. Fourth, Dawson isn't a very big LWH. Two years ago he was fighting at 168 and he could probably still make that weight.

So no, you are wrong, Pavlik would stand a pretty good chance. He might not be the favorite, but you can't count him out.

[Taeth]

Because if Pavlik gets by Hopkins which there is a good chance he won't, he wouldn't stnad a chance agaisnt Dawson, Glen Johnson has a great chin, and could walk through Dawson's punches, but Pavlik wouldn't be able to, and Dawson would be the fastest, and biggest guy he would have ever foughten.

First of all, Dawson needs to get past Tarver, which he might not. Second of all, Dawson isn't exactly known for his punching power. Third, Dawson is has chin questions of his own, and he is very hittable. Fourth, Dawson isn't a very big LWH. Two years ago he was fighting at 168 and he could probably still make that weight.

So no, you are wrong, Pavlik would stand a pretty good chance. He might not be the favorite, but you can't count him out.

You're wrong. Dawson isn't that hittable, watch him in any other fight besides against Glen Johnson who has quick sharp punches.

Dawson isn't a big lhw? He is 6'3, he has a 76 1/2 inch reach, he is a big guy. He weighed 168 when he was younger, so what, Roy Jones Jr made 154 for 20 fights, and he was a big 168 pounder. Oscar De La HOya was a big welterweight, he started his career at 135, and even fought at 130.

Also he does have chin problems, but against much bigger punchers then Pavlik. Because his is the larger, much faster man out of the two, he is going to land first and more often.

Also I think Tarver does have a chance against Dawson, and if he does win then He would konck Pavlik the fuck out. Pavlik is so overrated on here its not even funny.

People are jumping on my back because I say guys like Berto are going to be very good fighters down the road, but guys like Pavlik who have way less potential are considered gods on this site. STOP HUMPING HIS BLUE COLLAR'ed ass.

[RozzySean]

Because if Pavlik gets by Hopkins which there is a good chance he won't, he wouldn't stnad a chance agaisnt Dawson, Glen Johnson has a great chin, and could walk through Dawson's punches, but Pavlik wouldn't be able to, and Dawson would be the fastest, and biggest guy he would have ever foughten.

First of all, Dawson needs to get past Tarver, which he might not. Second of all, Dawson isn't exactly known for his punching power. Third, Dawson is has chin questions of his own, and he is very hittable. Fourth, Dawson isn't a very big LWH. Two years ago he was fighting at 168 and he could probably still make that weight.

So no, you are wrong, Pavlik would stand a pretty good chance. He might not be the favorite, but you can't count him out.

You're wrong. Dawson isn't that hittable, watch him in any other fight besides against Glen Johnson who has quick sharp punches.

Dawson isn't a big lhw? He is 6'3, he has a 76 1/2 inch reach, he is a big guy. He weighed 168 when he was younger, so what, Roy Jones Jr made 154 for 20 fights, and he was a big 168 pounder. Oscar De La HOya was a big welterweight, he started his career at 135, and even fought at 130.

Also he does have chin problems, but against much bigger punchers then Pavlik. Because his is the larger, much faster man out of the two, he is going to land first and more often.

Also I think Tarver does have a chance against Dawson, and if he does win then He would konck Pavlik the fuck out. Pavlik is so overrated on here its not even funny.

People are jumping on my back because I say guys like Berto are going to be very good fighters down the road, but guys like Pavlik who have way less potential are considered gods on this site. STOP HUMPING HIS BLUE COLLAR'ed ass.

First of all, numbskull, I wasn't humping his ass. I wasn't even saying that he would win. I was saying he has a chance. Sorry, I forgot, if I fighter isn't slick or fast they are overrated and suck. You are attracted to handspeed like a junkie is to dope. You salivate over the Mayweathers, Jones, Bertos, and Dawsons of the world because that's the your favorite style and to you that's what boxing it all about. Fair enough.

Some people overrate Pavlik here, but don't lump me in with them. FYI, I've watched plenty of Dawson fights. The only time he's not hittable is if he's in with a bum. Adamek, Johnson, and Harding all hit him that's the total roster of decent opposition he has faced. Dawson is only chinny against bigger punchers than Pavlik? You mean to tell me that Eric Harding hits harder than Pavlik? With his 7 KO's out of 23 wins? You are kidding yourself if you don't think Pavlik has the power to stop Dawson.

No, I think you are underrating Pavlik because he doesn't possess the qualities in a fighter which you most appreciate.

[mike_tha_man]

1 problem guys, Jones will beat Calzaghe

[Rantcatrat]

Because if Pavlik gets by Hopkins which there is a good chance he won't, he wouldn't stnad a chance agaisnt Dawson, Glen Johnson has a great chin, and could walk through Dawson's punches, but Pavlik wouldn't be able to, and Dawson would be the fastest, and biggest guy he would have ever foughten.

First of all, Dawson needs to get past Tarver, which he might not. Second of all, Dawson isn't exactly known for his punching power. Third, Dawson is has chin questions of his own, and he is very hittable. Fourth, Dawson isn't a very big LWH. Two years ago he was fighting at 168 and he could probably still make that weight.

So no, you are wrong, Pavlik would stand a pretty good chance. He might not be the favorite, but you can't count him out.

You're wrong. Dawson isn't that hittable, watch him in any other fight besides against Glen Johnson who has quick sharp punches.

Dawson isn't a big lhw? He is 6'3, he has a 76 1/2 inch reach, he is a big guy. He weighed 168 when he was younger, so what, Roy Jones Jr made 154 for 20 fights, and he was a big 168 pounder. Oscar De La HOya was a big welterweight, he started his career at 135, and even fought at 130.

Also he does have chin problems, but against much bigger punchers then Pavlik. Because his is the larger, much faster man out of the two, he is going to land first and more often.

Also I think Tarver does have a chance against Dawson, and if he does win then He would konck Pavlik the fuck out. Pavlik is so overrated on here its not even funny.

People are jumping on my back because I say guys like Berto are going to be very good fighters down the road, but guys like Pavlik who have way less potential are considered gods on this site. STOP HUMPING HIS BLUE COLLAR'ed ass.

Where's the anger coming from? Please explain why you think Pavlik is overrated before ranting about it.

Pavlik will not fight Dawson or Tarver or any other top tend light heavyweight with punching power. He is bigger than most middleweights and supermiddleweights. If he can still make the weight, why risk it moving up?

His opponents for his next fight would be anyone of the following: Kessler, Abraham, the German middleweight champ btw Sturm & Sylvester, or maybe Winkie Wright. I believe any of these fights will happen even if Pavlik loses to Bernard.

Assuming he gets by Bernard, Pavlik would love a shot at Calzaghe for the money, but Calzaghe said he is retiring. Losing to Calzaghe poses no downside. There is only upside: he gains international exposure regardless of the outcome, there is no risk of Calzaghe hurting him, and he makes oodles of money. Besides, losing to an all-time great isn't too much of a blemish on an otherwise spotless record. At the moment, I agree Calzaghe would be heavily favored, but if Pavlik knocks out Bernard...

[southakron314]

Some people have pointed out including me that if Joe Calzaghe, fought and beat Kelly Pavlik. People would then be demanding Joe Calzaghe vs Chad Dawson.

Then it struck me what if Kelly Pavlik and Chad Dawson win there next fights. Then why not Kelly Pavlik and Chad Dawson, fight it out to determine who really deserves a shot at Joe Calzaghe vs Roy Jones winner ?

Joe has been cushioned through out his prime . He fought the great all time p4p Mario Viet twice in his prime? Why? Dawson destroys Joe. Kelly destroys Joe.

[The PocketRocket]

Some people have pointed out including me that if Joe Calzaghe, fought and beat Kelly Pavlik. People would then be demanding Joe Calzaghe vs Chad Dawson.

Then it struck me what if Kelly Pavlik and Chad Dawson win there next fights. Then why not Kelly Pavlik and Chad Dawson, fight it out to determine who really deserves a shot at Joe Calzaghe vs Roy Jones winner ?

Joe has been cushioned through out his prime . He fought the great all time p4p Mario Viet twice in his prime? Why? Dawson destroys Joe. Kelly destroys Joe.

That's a bold statement - no way Dawson or Pavlik destroys Joe. Yes maybe they can beat him at this stage of his career cause he's been on the slide but to say they destroy him is wrong...... Got a feeling if Joe does well against Jones then he will be tempted for one last fight against Pavlik in 2009 but Dawson isn't a big enough name to sign a career off on. Pavlik is at the moment.

[superheavyrhun]

That's a bold statement - no way Dawson or Pavlik destroys Joe. Yes maybe they can beat him at this stage of his career cause he's been on the slide but to say they destroy him is wrong...... Got a feeling if Joe does well against Jones then he will be tempted for one last fight against Pavlik in 2009 but Dawson isn't a big enough name to sign a career off on. Pavlik is at the moment.

Personally, I don't think we're ever going to get to find out the answer to this one, because after the RJJ fight, I think Joe is going to be saying buh-bye to the fighting side of the sport. Don't think even Pavlik can tempt him. I think PAvlik v Calzaghe wouldbe a good one, with Joe breaking him down, but getting caught and rattled a few times alongthe way.

[Kev]

You guys are forgetting one thing........Antonio Tarver.


I've got a feeling he's going to upset Dawson big time.

Dawson looked vulnerable against Johnson, I think Tarver can take him.

[Preme]

You guys are forgetting one thing........Antonio Tarver.


I've got a feeling he's going to upset Dawson big time.

Dawson looked vulnerable against Johnson, I think Tarver can take him.

Well were were TRYING to forget him until u reminded us all lol. Thanks for that! haha


yeah i know what your saying, dawson didn't look that good and just got by a journey man. But i really expect him to put on a much much better showing in the Tarver fight and beat him without any dispute.

[Markusdarkus]

You guys are forgetting one thing........Antonio Tarver.


I've got a feeling he's going to upset Dawson big time.

Dawson looked vulnerable against Johnson, I think Tarver can take him.

Could pull the upset. I just dont think he is busy enough.