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    Default I wonder just 'How' Great Mosely could've been......

    .....if he had've stayed at LW or at moved up slowly rather than jumping straight up to WW. He's gotta be one of the greatest LWs ever anyway (what was he 31-0(29)??) But if he had've done things differently could be talking about a top 10 p4p of all time fighter? Could he still be unbeaten and p4p number 1? I think possibly 'Yes'

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    Default Re: I wonder just 'How' Great Mosely could've been......

    He had to move up he wasn't making weight anymore. He did fight some fights at 140 moving up. He IS great IMO, all time great.

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    ATG!!! i will not mind putting him alongside PAC as P4P number one right now
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    Default Re: I wonder just 'How' Great Mosely could've been......

    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlik View Post
    ATG!!! i will not mind putting him alongside PAC as P4P number one right now
    I think Mosleys win over Margarito was more impressive than Pacs win over oscar.

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    Default Re: I wonder just 'How' Great Mosely could've been......

    The thing I like about Mosley is his willingness to take on anyone. Mosley is a real fighter. Even if he loses he jumps straight back in looking for the rematch. Classy guy, I wish more fighters had the approach Mosley has.

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    Default Re: I wonder just 'How' Great Mosely could've been......

    That perfermance was all class,he took on someone that had just come off the biggest win of his career and Mosley took him to bits won every round then stopped him you carnt get better than that.If Floyd was watching thats enough to keep him retired with that performance.

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    Default Re: I wonder just 'How' Great Mosely could've been......

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    The thing I like about Mosley is his willingness to take on anyone. Mosley is a real fighter. Even if he loses he jumps straight back in looking for the rematch. Classy guy, I wish more fighters had the approach Mosley has.
    Agree, one of my faves but I wrote him off before last night as done. He's HoF no doubt, but IMO he does have flaws, and a fighter with a great jab and tight defense is his kryptonite. I don't think movinf up was his problem against Forrest and Winky, just styles that he would have always struggled with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlik View Post
    ATG!!! i will not mind putting him alongside PAC as P4P number one right now
    I think Mosleys win over Margarito was more impressive than Pacs win over oscar.
    I agree. While many thought Oscar was too big/strong for Manny, we saw what a shell Oscar was coming all the way down to 147 again for the 1st time in years. With Margarito, we had a guy many thought was the top WW & would be too strong for Shane who was supposed to be past his prime.

    Big props to Shane, what a convincing, impressive win - from the opening bell to the decisive conclusion!

    2009 gets off to a great start in boxing!

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    Default Re: I wonder just 'How' Great Mosely could've been......

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackRazor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlik View Post
    ATG!!! i will not mind putting him alongside PAC as P4P number one right now
    I think Mosleys win over Margarito was more impressive than Pacs win over oscar.
    I agree. While many thought Oscar was too big/strong for Manny, we saw what a shell Oscar was coming all the way down to 147 again for the 1st time in years. With Margarito, we had a guy many thought was the top WW & would be too strong for Shane who was supposed to be past his prime.

    Big props to Shane, what a convincing, impressive win - from the opening bell to the decisive conclusion!

    2009 gets off to a great start in boxing!
    I think it also eclipsed Hopkins amazing win over Pavlik. Infact im struggling to think of a fight it doesnt eclipse. Mosley was sensational . It looked like Mosley would never get back to his best after the 1st Forrest fight. We waited a long time but almost 10 years later . . .he is back !!! It wasnt just the fact that he won but he statyed in pucnhing range , stood toe to toe and then pushed Tony back . He went for the KO and got it. ATG no doubt about it !

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    .....if he had've stayed at LW or at moved up slowly rather than jumping straight up to WW. He's gotta be one of the greatest LWs ever anyway (what was he 31-0(29)??) But if he had've done things differently could be talking about a top 10 p4p of all time fighter? Could he still be unbeaten and p4p number 1? I think possibly 'Yes'
    Not sure if he could of stayed unbeaten with Floyd Mayweather around, who at the lighter weights had a terrific jab which is one of Shane Mosley's biggest weaknesses, he's always struggled against fighters with good jabs.

    Floyd Mayweather also had alot of pop and was as fast as Shane Mosley, not sure who would of won but it would of been a terrific fight. But other than Floyd Mayweather i can't really see anyone else at Lightweight really having a chance of beating him.

    His toughest challenges would be Paul Spadaforda, Joel Casamayor, Jose Luis Castillo, i think Joel Casamayor would of gave him a tough fight. I don't think the others would of troubled him too much, but basically Joel Casamayor, Floyd Mayweather, would of been his toughest fights had he stayed at Lightweight.

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    Default Re: I wonder just 'How' Great Mosely could've been......

    I like Shane Mosley and he's an old school fighter who will fight anyone.
    Class act all round

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    Default Re: I wonder just 'How' Great Mosely could've been......

    Size wasn't the factor, it was Mosley inability to purely box, physically he was as strong as the big guys, he just doesn't know how to fight guys who can jab and are not mesmerized by his speed. also he was 28 or 29 when he left the LW division that isn't very young, he already had 32 fights, and there was really nobody in the division at the time worth fighting.
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    Default Re: I wonder just 'How' Great Mosely could've been......

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Size wasn't the factor, it was Mosley inability to purely box, physically he was as strong as the big guys, he just doesn't know how to fight guys who can jab and are not mesmerized by his speed.
    Where did I say size was the factor or the reason he should have moved back down? He should have run back down to avoid fighting Winky Wright for exactly the reason you said. It would have been one thing if a guy like Vargas was his mandatory. He could have made a lucrative, very winnable fight against Mayorga. Duh...We know he was big enough.

    Not that it would have mattered, but Mosley does have much better power at 147 than 154. He's a decent puncher at 154, but he has real power at 147. It's pretty clear that's a better weight for him.

    He should have learned from the Forrest fights that a guy with a jab like Wright's was a nightmare for him. And he should have realized again after Winky beat him the first time and not gone back for a second go. Hubris was his downfall.

    Mayorga was a better matchup for him and probably a more marketable fight. I'm sure if Shane had tried to make the fight happen, Mayorga would have defended against Mosley instead of Spinks. That would have been twice the money...Shane would have taken two less losses, beaten a younger, more feared Mayorga, and not gotten stuck in the boxing wilderness for a few years. How much better would his resume look if you replaced two losses to Wright with a KO win over Mayorga?

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    Default Re: I wonder just 'How' Great Mosely could've been......

    Just wanna say big congrats to my man Shane, he has always been my favourite fighter and with all the scandal about the Balco use going and how he should retire after his low par performance against Mayorga, he has proved he is still a world class fighter.

    Even I thought Shane had bitten off more than he could chew taking on Margarito at this point in his career which is why I didnt watch the fight live, it hurt me to see what Margarito did to Cotto and I just didnt think I could take watching Shane taking the same punishment.

    Boxing needs fighters like Mosley who arnt afraid to take on the most feared fighters in the divisions.
    Nothings Sweeter Than Sugar

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    Default Re: I wonder just 'How' Great Mosely could've been......

    Mosley was already an ATG before his win against Margarito and let's not get carried away here, Margarito is not in Mosley's class or Oscar's for that matter. He beat Cintron and yes he beat Cotto, how Cotto managed to lose that fight i still don't know because i don't think Margarito is in his class either.
    I liken Margarito to the EPL, he was top of the championship league and gets promoted to the Premier League, he surprisngly wins his first match then kapow is brought back down to earth when he tackles the 'Arsenal' of Suger Shane Mosley.
    As for Mosley one of my favourite fighters and people in boxing i would have loved to see him fight Tszyu back in 1999. He chose to chase Oscar and it was a smart move both financially and career wise.
    He really needs Floyd now or Cotto again to cement his place in Boxings top 20 ATGs. He is 37 and probably has one or two big fights left in him but guys like Margarito are a punching bag for Sugar Shane. Floyd, Cotto or Williams could be a different story altogether.

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