Margarito Suspended !!!Trainer Javier Capetillo also suspended

[LEGION]

Gotta pay the price the trainer too if he knew it was happenin.
I hate cheaters

Yeah this is unfortunate...Tony was my fave fighter along with Pavlik and I must say I am more than a bit disappointed.....

Cheater cheater pumpkin eater

[Manuel "Chubby" Medina]

Gotta pay the price the trainer too if he knew it was happenin.
I hate cheaters

Yeah this is unfortunate...Tony was my fave fighter along with Pavlik and I must say I am more than a bit disappointed.....

Cheater cheater pumpkin eater

Yeh Margarito was gettin there to beign one of my favorites but now his more to the I wanna see him lose side sadly .
Has this been confirmed that he purposely put plaster in there? like official?

[blegit]

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Funny how Richardson is the only trainer to have seen this mysterious substance in the last 20 years. Life I wrote in my other thread this MAY have been a ploy by Ricahrdson to throw off Margarito's whole corner...now he's suspended, his trainer is suspended, and his reputation is taking a beating.

Not a fair shake if this wasnt true.
Are you serious I guess they just confiscate nothing, investigate hot air from opposing trainers, and suspend right doers. Use one iota of common sense. The commission and a doctor witnessed Margarito's handwraps being undone and the plaster falling out. What more has to happen before you stop accusing everyone but the cheater? Oh yeah, OJ didn't commit murder either it was a big conspiracy.

Where is this article that says specifically "plaster fell out od his glove"

Don't limit yourself to just this article. It was said specifically right before the fight that is was plaster like substance and in almost every article they are calling it plaster of paris. Even the doctor who observed it said it was like the plaster we make for cast. Lets be real here instead of bias.

[Spicoli]

I'm waiting for the official undeniable findings and report,I agree with the temp suspension,ecspecially of head trainer...pending such.Loyalties must not over shadow proven facts and rules.Can you say 'conflicted'?I do however find the initial pile on and speculative broad tearing down of a mans character & career pretty damn f!!!!ked up!!

[blegit]

Gotta pay the price the trainer too if he knew it was happenin.
I hate cheaters

Yeah this is unfortunate...Tony was my fave fighter along with Pavlik and I must say I am more than a bit disappointed.....

Cheater cheater pumpkin eater

I too was really becoming a big fan of Margarito. But I would not be so bias as to ignore this horrible act just because I am a fan. Some people just won't let themselves get it. This is the worse crime in boxing. People die without loading your wraps. This greatly heightens hurting someone permanently maybe unto death. Despicable. If convicted he needs banned. A message must me sent to everyone that boxing will not tolerate this and the fighter's safety is the biggest concern.

[LEGION]

Gotta pay the price the trainer too if he knew it was happenin.
I hate cheaters

Yeah this is unfortunate...Tony was my fave fighter along with Pavlik and I must say I am more than a bit disappointed.....

Cheater cheater pumpkin eater

I too was really becoming a big fan of Margarito. But I would not be so bias as to ignore this horrible act just because I am a fan. Some people just won't let themselves get it. This is the worse crime in boxing. People die without loading your wraps. This greatly heightens hurting someone permanently maybe unto death. Despicable. If convicted he needs banned. A message must me sent to everyone that boxing will not tolerate this and the fighter's safety is the biggest concern.

Well said.....I'm a huge fan but I'm no fanboy and if this has been happening before now then shame on him; what else can you say? Not my place to convict the guy and I don't want to totally discredit all his successes but I will like to see how this all pans out....

[Macho]

IMO , no matter or what , what decision could take on this final investigation and in the Hearing in February 10 , Margaro now have his reputation blemished , you are not suspended temporary just because you have not made something illegal , the act was done , is sad , really , really sad ...................

The trust and reputation are a things that you get with sacrifice and when loss it you can loss it in a seconds............

[Wayne]

if Margaritos is found guilty then let him rot in whatever punishment is given...if he is not suspend Nazim Richardson and make sure he issues a public apology to Margarito and his trainer.

apology for what?? Nazim doesnt do that to everybody so far he has only done it to Tito and Margarito. its obvious something was up he had to wrap his hand 3 fukkin times.

Surprisingly the two fighters he suspected were coincidentally fighters that could have on any given day beaten his fighter. Tito was favored to beat B-Hop and likewise was Margo.

as far as the wraps, the reason they were rewrapped three times was not because of this plaster stuff, this is from Ring Magazine's article:

What does that have to do with anything? So because Richardson or whoever made them rewrap their hands they all of a sudden couldn't fight? It kind of looked like Tito and Tony were throwing punches to me. Favored does not equal lock and the substance found in Margarito's hand wraps have nothing to do with any head games Richardson may or may not have been playing. Let's wait for the official ruling and then see if you can spin that. Stop being such a fanboy and use common sense.

Here's Tony's career:

[Lance Uppercut]

This is a report form the associated press:

Calif. panel suspends Antonio Margarito's license - Boxing - Yahoo! Sports

[:::PSL:::]

Both of 'em could do time in prison.

[Spicoli]

Both of 'em could do time in prison.

Come on Pac....You could have just wrote in 'bump' for the same effect

[:::PSL:::]

Both of 'em could do time in prison.

Come on Pac....You could have just wrote in 'bump' for the same effect

Sorry man. 'Couldn't help it.

Just reviewing all threads from last week. And this is just one of 'em.

I can only join the board once a week now (my own little rule).

[Spicoli]

Both of 'em could do time in prison.

Come on Pac....You could have just wrote in 'bump' for the same effect

Sorry man. 'Couldn't help it.

Just reviewing all threads from last week. And this is just one of 'em.

I can only join the board once a week now (my own little rule).

Once a week?ouch.Thank God for net Cafe's huh .Hey,moderation is a good thing bud.No more self bans lol.Later

[Andre]

If its plaster of paris which is casting plaster with no added cemicals for flexability and glue style hardening then its a Stupid ass thing to do for no real massive gain.

We use casting plaster at work every day it isnt really that strong would be good for a round or maybe two but would be dust and then with the sweat would get softer still.
If it was still in lumps after a fight then there was alot in there and it was thick to start with and basted between layers of guage like laying up resin and cloth. Plaster on its own has no real strength same as resin.
If its in there in visable quantities after that many hits ,they ment it to be there. Its no mistake like a "whoops we used some powder sorry we thought it was talcum powder",wont cut it.

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

I got this off of the internet;

I am a Dental Lab Technician. I play with plaster all day long. Plaster breaks easy unless the stone is super thick. Plaster of paris comes in powder form and is mixed with water. takes about 45 minutes for plaster to set. takes 24hours to set to it maximum strength. Once plaster is set it becomes hard. However if exposed to a moist environment it will weaken and crumbles easy. That is why doctors tell the patients to not wet the cast. Now in order for Margo to use plaster in the gloves mixed with gauze, it has to be thick like more than 1/2 inch in thickness and keep it dry. No plaster used, take my word, read my lips.

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Ok you are all wonderful with your comments. It was something they used but plaster is impossible. I am telling man, plaster is not like fiberglass that you can layer very thin and still make it strong.


One article said the gauze was scratched and flakes came off it.


Another quote from boxingscene.com:

If wet plaster was indeed used, his trainer is an idiot. Wet plaster is not going to harden over 20 minutes inside of boxing gloves. Not only would it not have dried inside the glove, but as it was attempting to dry and set, every punch Tony threw would have cracked the still soft plaster. I've never experimented with loaded gloves... but summer after summer working on houses with my dad did teach me the in's and out's of plaster. No way could wet plaster have set inside gloves during the duration of a boxing match.... Over night with absolutely no sweat coming through the wraps... maybe.