If he wants total respect from the boxing world he should fight the real Cotto at 147 not making him come down to 143.Why not let Cotto come in at 147 and Manny can come in at what ever he wants aslong as its over 140lbs.
If he wants total respect from the boxing world he should fight the real Cotto at 147 not making him come down to 143.Why not let Cotto come in at 147 and Manny can come in at what ever he wants aslong as its over 140lbs.
You are correct. If Pacquaio wins, his record won't be 7 weight divisions, it'll be 7 weight divisions with an asterisk. Plain and simple.
This all says something about the sanctioning body too. They are perfectly willing to bend their rules for the right amount of money.
You make good and valid points my friend. It is clear that this is why he wanted Oscar to drop weight to his "catchweight" because it would weaken him having not fought there for such a long time and the closest he had been (150 against Forbes) he looked ordinary at best. Pac and his men even demanded that each pound Oscar was over he had to give up a large amount of his purse (can't remember how much) so he would make damned sure he was spot on.
But then again last time out he fought Hatton at 140 and demolished him and that is Hatton's comfort zone.
To be totally honest I don't think the fight with Cotto is going to happen, they both fight under Arum and are his golden egg laying geese so he won't want to see either beaten. No I think that we will keep hearing these rumours about Pac to keep him in the public eye until the Floyd-JMM fight has been and gone. I see that one going to Floyd and then I see Pac and Floyd fighting at 147 and again I only see Floyd winning that one too.
This is probably exactly what Pacquiao is looking for from the boxing public. Head games! A bargaining chip if you will.... What you have to remember about Pacquiao is that he enjoys gambling. He's just upping the anti abit fellas. He did the same thing with Hatton that made old uncle Bob throw in another cool million into the kitty. When you push someones buttons it gets them off their game.
I like Pac but I just can't see how anybody with half a brain can keep defending this catchweight crap he keeps trying to pull. He wants to win a welterweight title but won't fight a true welterweight. Roach has a different catchweight for each of the welterweights Cotto, PBF, Mosley, and Clottey. And the funny thing is he is willing to fight only PBF at 147. Does anybody really need to have this attempted draining tactic explained to them any simpler And off the point, Pac really has won a world title in 5 weight classes not 6. So 147 would be his 6th attempted title. He fought JMM for his featherweight titles but that fight was a draw so the champion remains the champion. If you want to stretch and count the Ring Magazine title, which is given on opinion and not on the line in a particular fight, then they gave Pac their belt after only one win at featherweight and that was against Barerra who wasn't even a featherweight champion.
Last edited by blegit; 07-09-2009 at 05:50 PM.
Smoke and mirror negotiations, and a lot of people are falling for it. Most everyone was up in arms about a catch weight of 145, so now with raising the possibility of 143, it all of a sudden has some of those same people going...well that's nuts, 145 maybe but...
Exactly... it could just be a ploy to get people who want to see him fighting properly at 147 thinking that maybe 145 isn't so bad after all...
he was more than happy for Oscar to fight him at 147 pounds... Oscar actually ended up weighing 145, so if he asks any 147 fighters for less than that then he is trying to drain them pure and simple... Like I keep saying it's all to do with what Roach perceives to be the other guys opportunity to boil down to the weight fatiguelessly... not simply poundage.
The bottom line is that he can fight whoever he wants... but neither pac or his fans should expect him to get 100% (I'm not saying he deserves 0% either...) credit for beating a guy who isn't at or allowed to be at 100%
I sure wonder if there ever has been any catchweight at hw? Maybe David Haye can tell Wlad to come down to 220 and fight him.
Pac won world titles in these divisions.. 112, 122, 126, 130, 135, 140. Sorry Pac, but if you wanna be called a ww champ, then you must fight at 147. 147 is 147, it's not 143, 144, or 145. It's 147! Catchweights shouldnt be non-title fight in the first place.
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