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    Default Is Mayweather ruining the sport of boxing?

    I think I can easily recall a few fighters who would name a few opponents from time to time who they wanted to fight. This is ordinary practice UNTIL YOU ARE ONTOP OF THE DIVISION!

    What on earth would possess Mayweather to make and break all these fights, adn calling out these top 20 divisional fighters, versus top 20 P4P fighters? Saul Alvarez?? Mlignaggi?? Bradley?? C'mon money... there are guys in your division... I Promise!

    Demanding blood tests from every fighter now??

    And believe you, me. The Mosley fight will NOT go.
    But IF (big IF) it does.. Why is Floyd getting the lions share? Cant they just fight for the larger part of the purse? I mean this is NOT WWF wrestling. The winner is To Be Determined for God's sake.
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    The fact that we do not have a Mayweather V Pacquaio fight happening in the forseeable future has soured my interest this year. I was convinced we would see two fights this year with a rematch a certainty, Mayweather can go and F*** himself! Boxing is slipping real fast, it is very disappointing.

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    Default Re: Is Mayweather ruining the sport of boxing?

    Mayweather has the right to ask for whatever he wants, as does any other fighter in the sport. If he is to be opposite another man in the ring, he has every right to make sure that guy is 100% clean as not to risk any serious injury. If the opponent has a problem with taking these tests, so be it. But Mayweather is certainly not out of line asking for them from all his opponents. Mosley has already said he would submit to such testing, so there should be no problem there.

    Mayweather also gets the lion's share because he is simply the bigger draw at this moment. If the fight were to happen back when Mayweather first called out Mosley in 99, Mosley would've rightfully gotten the lion's share. Again, it seems Mosley has acknowledged Mayweather is the bigger draw and has no problem with taking the smaller share to make it happen.

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    Default Re: Is Mayweather ruining the sport of boxing?

    As long as the Networks sign the checks and people pay out the money for a Marquez "name" event as oposed to division top rivals,it'll continue.And not just with Mayweather.We're suckers for this crap.This sport does not revolve around one man.

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    I think an argument could be made that Pac is doing it as much damage as PBF. He continuosly gets fighters to come down in weight to fight at catchweight insead of taking them on at their natural weight, including winning a 147 belt fighting at 145. He then knocks back the biggest fight in memory due to a few simple blood tests and costs the fans the fight. His actions dent the reputation of the sport because it seems the number 1 fighter in the game is a drug taker. Not good.

    Mayweather isnt helping may i add, but i think its drawing a long bow to say that he alone is ruining boxing by himself.

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    Default Re: Is Mayweather ruining the sport of boxing?

    I don't see how you can comment too much about it till we see if the Mosley fight goes through. If it does I don't see what there's to complain about unless complaining is just a personal hobby, its the best fight out there outside of Mayweather-Pacquaio and while I don't like how Mayweather and some of his people handled some of the negotiations I don't see how the lions share of the blame would fall on Mayweather for that fight falling apart, I just don't and I'm no Mayweather fan.

    As for calling out those guys, he was thinking of a fight to replace the Pacquaio ones, there were no great options out there after Clottey agreed to fight Pacquaio, now that Mosley has fallen in his lap it appears that that's the direction they're going in. What is there to complain about with that?

    Except for who gets the larger purse? Seriously, I don't get it. Why first of all would you care? I doubt you're getting a cut and it isn't like Shane's going bankrupt. Second, its just the way of the world, Floyd is the bigger draw and the higher ranked PFP guy, the bigger draw is going to get the bigger purse, its just the way it is. There are so many better things to complain about then Mayweather getting the majority of the purse (dodgy decisions, Zahir Raheem being allowed to wear that crown to the ring, etc.)

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    Default Re: Is Mayweather ruining the sport of boxing?

    floyd recent damages done to boxing

    - retired temporarily when the possible opposition gets tougher

    - picked jmm for his comeback fight in a big mismatch fight

    - delayed the jmm fight by faking an injury

    - unrespectful and unsportsman-like action of not making weight for the jmm fight

    - demands additional rules over the present normal rules of boxing commissions that become the root cause of pac-floyd fight falling apart

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbolt View Post
    floyd recent damages done to boxing

    - retired temporarily when the possible opposition gets tougher

    - picked jmm for his comeback fight in a big mismatch fight

    - delayed the jmm fight by faking an injury

    - unrespectful and unsportsman-like action of not making weight for the jmm fight

    - demands additional rules over the present normal rules of boxing commissions that become the root cause of pac-floyd fight falling apart
    HAHA so asking for $10,000,000 per pound over weight isnt an addition o the normal rules? Pac started the whole one upmanship game, and when it go too much for him he walked away and walked away looking like a cheater. Another deluded PACTARD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    I think an argument could be made that Pac is doing it as much damage as PBF. He continuosly gets fighters to come down in weight to fight at catchweight insead of taking them on at their natural weight, including winning a 147 belt fighting at 145. He then knocks back the biggest fight in memory due to a few simple blood tests and costs the fans the fight. His actions dent the reputation of the sport because it seems the number 1 fighter in the game is a drug taker. Not good.

    Mayweather isnt helping may i add, but i think its drawing a long bow to say that he alone is ruining boxing by himself.
    Tell me which is worse...
    Scheduling a fight at 145... and fighting at 145 and winning.
    Scheduling a fight at 144 coming in overweight against an opponent 2 divisions smaller than you and being unwilling to divulge your fight night weight!

    Granted I didn't hear a peep out of Cotto or Marquez, because they are real fighters. They know a fight is just a stack of circumstances some in their favor some not :/

    I would really just rather see Mayweather fight and stop holding up the whole boxing world up with worrying about who he fights next. I think everyone wants to fight him now because he has looked very beatable since fighting De La Hoya. Along with the multi million payday for just showing up in shape. Game's up.
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    Default Re: Is Mayweather ruining the sport of boxing?

    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyFolds View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    I think an argument could be made that Pac is doing it as much damage as PBF. He continuosly gets fighters to come down in weight to fight at catchweight insead of taking them on at their natural weight, including winning a 147 belt fighting at 145. He then knocks back the biggest fight in memory due to a few simple blood tests and costs the fans the fight. His actions dent the reputation of the sport because it seems the number 1 fighter in the game is a drug taker. Not good.

    Mayweather isnt helping may i add, but i think its drawing a long bow to say that he alone is ruining boxing by himself.
    Tell me which is worse...
    Scheduling a fight at 145... and fighting at 145 and winning.
    Scheduling a fight at 144 coming in overweight against an opponent 2 divisions smaller than you and being unwilling to divulge your fight night weight!

    Granted I didn't hear a peep out of Cotto or Marquez, because they are real fighters. They know a fight is just a stack of circumstances some in their favor some not :/

    I would really just rather see Mayweather fight and stop holding up the whole boxing world up with worrying about who he fights next. I think everyone wants to fight him now because he has looked very beatable since fighting De La Hoya. Along with the multi million payday for just showing up in shape. Game's up.
    I noticed you said nothing about the fact Pac walked away from the fight of the decade due to not wanting to take a drug test which is far worse than anything PBF has done.

    And who exactly has Mayweather looked 'very beatable' against since fighting DLH? He has had 2 figts since then, one a KO victory and the other a complete points shut out..... Your theory is dying a painful death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    Mayweather can go and F*** himself!
    Once again, Pacquiao comes out smelling of roses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    Mayweather can go and F*** himself!
    Once again, Pacquiao comes out smelling of roses.
    And so he should. He has KO'd DLH, Hatton and Cotto in his last 3 fights, what has Mayweather done these past 18 months? Pac is the man at the moment and Mayweather and his fans find that hard to swallow. Mayweather is simply chicken as he realises that Pac is his biggest threat yet.

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    Look mayweather can only do to boxing what "us" the fans allow him to do. It amazes me how much people bitch and cry about the guy yet every fight he's involved winds up being huge. Floyd sucks Then why does pac want to fight him. Why does shane want to fight him. Why is everyone so butt hurt this last fight got canceled. Floyd is just a punk anyway right...who wants to see that. There are so many fighters out there yet the nutz of floyd get ridden by the people that hate him more than any of his own fans. Don't like the guy ?? Quit buying the fights. Quit posting every little think he says or is said about him. He's so hated yet he had his own section here for one of his fights. You all dump money in his pockets beliveing any of these people will beat him and since they won't and can't now everyone hates him. If he 's ruining boxing then stop calling on him to save it. The man was retired and he was all people talked about while he was gone. And people still blame him. Freakin amazing !!!!! Switch sides, if pac accused floyd of roids and then floyd gave the same bs excuses pac and his team have, people would put kleenex out of buisness with all the damn crying. Floyd no matter how stupid it is to want to ensure a fair fight was willing to go through the same procedures pac would. Only one person said no. Basically pac didn't want to jump a few hoops for the biggest baddest most lucrative fight of recent history, because of needles ?? Shit how much did they pay him to take needles for those cheap tatts Or did he pay for them ? But yea it's all floyds fault. Not for this fight, but all of boxing. Wow. I almost guarantee one of you could find a way to blame floyd for aids, katrina, and hati if given enough time too.
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    Default Re: Is Mayweather ruining the sport of boxing?

    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyFolds View Post
    I think I can easily recall a few fighters who would name a few opponents from time to time who they wanted to fight. This is ordinary practice UNTIL YOU ARE ONTOP OF THE DIVISION!

    Most fighters call out other fighters, not sure of your point here, the alternative is "my people take care of that". That's pretty much it for options.

    What on earth would possess Mayweather to make and break all these fights, adn calling out these top 20 divisional fighters, versus top 20 P4P fighters? Saul Alvarez?? Mlignaggi?? Bradley?? C'mon money... there are guys in your division... I Promise!

    Team Mayweather has publically said nothing about any of those guys, that was all internet rumor, although for the record Alvarez is a welterweight.


    Demanding blood tests from every fighter now??

    God forbid we start enforcing stricter drug screens, to actually catch people that use PEDs. Current testing has been proven to be ineffective case in point Mosley................

    And believe you, me. The Mosley fight will NOT go.
    But IF (big IF) it does.. Why is Floyd getting the lions share? Cant they just fight for the larger part of the purse? I mean this is NOT WWF wrestling. The winner is To Be Determined for God's sake.

    I have yet to see a fight where the "winner takes more money" I know RJJ has proposed it for fights before, but to my knowledge it's never actually happened. This is common practice not something exclusive to Mayweather negotiations. There have been no sticking point in the Mayweather/Mosley negotiation, nor do I expect there to be. They both want to get paid, they will both get paid the most by fighting each other (now that Pac has elected to fight Clottey instead)
    I agree I'm going to stop watching boxing because the sport is deficient because of his practices, and solely his practices

    Is Mayweather a diva, yes he is, as is Pac, as is every fighter that has leverage in the negotiation games.

    I don't understand the argument that the NSAC drug screen rules, blah, blah, blah. The NSAC drug screen is the minimum required to legally fight in the state of Nevada, the NSAC has a drug policy that's open ended and allows for private contracts (including boxing contracts) to EXPAND on drug screens, to make them more comprehensive and check for things that urine tests may not catch.
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    ...floyd's ruining boxing. (I'm sorry, i'm still laughing)
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