Rioting scum causes and solutions

[Andre]

Bilbo, you think a form of Communism to be the answer then?

[Kev]

Fucking hell no. Communism is an awful repressive system.

I'd like to go back to the values and practices of the pre war years, and maybe the frugal 50's.

Today's morality is all about personal happiness rather than personal responsibiltiy and it has fucked everybody up, myself included.

I'd love to live in a less permissive society where social norms were more virtuous and wholesome.

Today there are no boundries, not just for the youth, but for anyone. It has messed us all up and reduced the happiness of most people in the Western world.

Possesions and the fufillment of our desires doesn't make us happy, but our society revolves around those two things and we are all contaminated by it.

[Gandalf]

Bilbo, I like the points you are arguing in this thread. They strangely align with my own.

Clearly it's a shambles from top to bottom and more than ad hoc proposals are needed.

[Toffeefist]

Whist one feels sorry for people growing up in dysfunctional families, it should not then be the responsibilities of the responsible to pay for it.
I and my brothers were brought up by a single parent (father) on a rough council estate. My eldest brother is a phsycoligist, my other brother is a director of a company that manufactures landing gear for commercial aircraft I have recently sold my large house in London.
I sold because I was in and out of work, so I sold it and moved elsewhere, so I would not have to depend on benefits to support my child and immigrant wife.
My wife thinks that Britain is a soft touch, so do all her friends. WE ARE!!
It's time to get tough on crime,
Tough on chavs, tough on spongers and National service is just one positive step in the right direction.
Immigration should be banned for the low skilled as it is the low skilled jobs that our own school leavers, and people who want to get off benefits, are competing with.

[Andre]

Fucking hell no. Communism is an awful repressive system.

I'd like to go back to the values and practices of the pre war years, and maybe the frugal 50's.

Today's morality is all about personal happiness rather than personal responsibiltiy and it has fucked everybody up, myself included.

I'd love to live in a less permissive society where social norms were more virtuous and wholesome.

Today there are no boundries, not just for the youth, but for anyone. It has messed us all up and reduced the happiness of most people in the Western world.

Possesions and the fufillment of our desires doesn't make us happy, but our society revolves around those two things and we are all contaminated by it.

True.

When things heat up, you'll find that the crap separates out from the rest of society and deals in hatred /greed etc and the good will continue or up their great work; this landscape allows for action on both ends of the scale and it is what will sort us all out.