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    Default Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    Never heard of the guy before till tonight. I looked up some footage tonight and omg, this guy can scrap!!! Did you see those combos he landed on liakhovich? Some serious firepower for a 6ft 6 inch MF!!! His body shots are murder too. I think FINALLY we have a good exciting heavyweight who can challenge the Klitschkos and not be scared to death....
    Look up some his fights and you will see what I mean!
    *Adamek is good, but I don't think he is big enough to pull off the upsets.

    I think he would take out Wlad now, but might have trouble with Vitali.

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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    Very impressive finish from Helenius ,power speed and very accurate , he is getting better with every fight , another few fights against good competion , and he will certainly get a title shot , but i hope he doesnt get rushed to quickly , i still think he needs more experiance and more rounds under his belt ,but looking very handy indeed .

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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    He needs to do some serious work on his defense if he hopes to even be competitive against either Klitschko. Right now they'd murder him.

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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    Watching some highlights I was surprised to see he has a pretty good right hand to the body. He's got some offensive tools. Not sure what to think of him overall yet.

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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    The dude is a very good prospect/contender at this stage but is far from ready to challenge either Klitschko. I'd like to see him in against someone a little fresher, an Arreola type before I'd really rate him as a threat. But he is one to watch
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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    it was worth throwing the towel in wasnt it

    he does look like hes getting better and better, i am starting to be convinced, i had excuses for all his other big wins but maybe he is the real deal
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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    The dude is a very good prospect/contender at this stage but is far from ready to challenge either Klitschko. I'd like to see him in against someone a little fresher, an Arreola type before I'd really rate him as a threat. But he is one to watch
    I agree. Let's see where he goes from here. He's beat enough top 20 guys, and proved he belongs in the top 10, how about facing a top ten guy now?

    Has he been down? How's his chin?

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    Right now I think hed stand no chance against wlad, and would be a clinic. Vitali I don't know he's getting up there in age and has fought like a round over the last year. He needs to work on his footwork he's a bit to flat footed as lennox mentioned, and that would cost him big time against wlad since he probably wouldn't be able to touch him. However, give him some time to improve, a few more fights under the belt and we might have us a nice heavyweight scrap. I was glad to see liakovich back in the ring since he's been semi retired over last few years, hopefully he sticks around and has some good fights.

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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    Quote Originally Posted by #1FightFan View Post
    Never heard of the guy before till tonight. I looked up some footage tonight and omg, this guy can scrap!!! Did you see those combos he landed on liakhovich? Some serious firepower for a 6ft 6 inch MF!!! His body shots are murder too. I think FINALLY we have a good exciting heavyweight who can challenge the Klitschkos and not be scared to death....
    Look up some his fights and you will see what I mean!
    *Adamek is good, but I don't think he is big enough to pull off the upsets
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    I think he would take out Wlad now, but might have trouble with Vitali.

    It's possible, but right now I don't think Helenius takes out either Klitschko brother. I'd like to see him wait another year or 2, get a bit more experience, and then I believe he'll have a better shot at beating both brothers, or at least putting up one hell of a fight.

    It will be interesting to see how the K-Bros do against someone who's an equal in size and power, Helenius is great news for the Heavyweight division.
    Last edited by Mars_ax; 08-29-2011 at 10:34 PM.

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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by #1FightFan View Post
    Never heard of the guy before till tonight. I looked up some footage tonight and omg, this guy can scrap!!! Did you see those combos he landed on liakhovich? Some serious firepower for a 6ft 6 inch MF!!! His body shots are murder too. I think FINALLY we have a good exciting heavyweight who can challenge the Klitschkos and not be scared to death....
    Look up some his fights and you will see what I mean!
    *Adamek is good, but I don't think he is big enough to pull off the upsets
    .

    I think he would take out Wlad now, but might have trouble with Vitali.
    It's possible, but right now I don't think Helenius takes out either Klitschko brother. I'd like to see him wait another year or 2, get a bit more experience, and then I believe he'll have a better shot at beating both brothers, or at least putting up one hell of a fight.

    It will be interesting to see how the K-Bros do against someone who's an equal in size and power, Helenius is great news for the Heavyweight division.
    Seriously, what is it about Helenius that makes anyone think he could take out Wlad, and especially, possibly right now?

    He fought a fat, unambitious plodder who hadn't fought in a year and a half and who is the only top class boxer ever to get beaten down by Nikolay Valuev and he was losing the first half of the fight.

    Tony Thompson, Odlanier Solis, Eddie Chambers, Thomasz Adamek and David Haye would all have beaten Lyakhovich much more one sidedly than that. Mike Perez would likely have battered him in a few rounds, I just don't see what was impressive about that performance at all apart from the finish.

    I would put Helenius in a class just above Mike Mollo and MIchael Grant.

    I'd have him level right now with guys like Chris Arreola, Kevin Johnson and Axander Dimitrenko, against any of those I'd have it a pickem fight.

    I think he loses to both Klits, Solis, Adamek, Chambers, Povetkin and Tony Thompson.

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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    Honestly, I haven't seen much technically to be impress by the guy. Sure, he seems to know how to throw some bombs but he doesn't have a good defense and he seems very confuse when he throws combo as how to do it effectively. I also question his stamina, afterhe threw the last shots that sent the white wolf down, he was breathing heavily. I think that all the excitation comes from the fact that he comes in to bang and that he has a massive size but all that excitation for the moment is way too premature and exaggerated. I'd give both K 6 rounds, let's say 7 to totally gun him down clueless to the canvas and I am pretty sure that a couple of other HW like Adamek or Povotkin would also to a bad number on him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
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    I think he would take out Wlad now, but might have trouble with Vitali.
    It's possible, but right now I don't think Helenius takes out either Klitschko brother. I'd like to see him wait another year or 2, get a bit more experience, and then I believe he'll have a better shot at beating both brothers, or at least putting up one hell of a fight.

    It will be interesting to see how the K-Bros do against someone who's an equal in size and power, Helenius is great news for the Heavyweight division.
    Seriously, what is it about Helenius that makes anyone think he could take out Wlad, and especially, possibly right now?

    He fought a fat, unambitious plodder who hadn't fought in a year and a half and who is the only top class boxer ever to get beaten down by Nikolay Valuev and he was losing the first half of the fight.

    Tony Thompson, Odlanier Solis, Eddie Chambers, Thomasz Adamek and David Haye would all have beaten Lyakhovich much more one sidedly than that. Mike Perez would likely have battered him in a few rounds, I just don't see what was impressive about that performance at all apart from the finish.

    I would put Helenius in a class just above Mike Mollo and MIchael Grant.

    I'd have him level right now with guys like Chris Arreola, Kevin Johnson and Axander Dimitrenko, against any of those I'd have it a pickem fight.

    I think he loses to both Klits, Helenius.
    I didn't say he was ready for a Klitschko Bro right now Bilbo.

    Helenius needs to fight some or all of the pugs you mentioned, and defeat them before taking on Wlad or Vitali. At this point, i'd just say he has tons of potential, but he's got a lot of work yet to do.

    BTW, WTF does his hair have to do with anything, that's just ridiculous.

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    Default Re: Look out Klitschkos!! Robert Helenius is a serious threat....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    .

    I think he would take out Wlad now, but might have trouble with Vitali.
    It's possible, but right now I don't think Helenius takes out either Klitschko brother. I'd like to see him wait another year or 2, get a bit more experience, and then I believe he'll have a better shot at beating both brothers, or at least putting up one hell of a fight.

    It will be interesting to see how the K-Bros do against someone who's an equal in size and power, Helenius is great news for the Heavyweight division.
    Seriously, what is it about Helenius that makes anyone think he could take out Wlad, and especially, possibly right now?

    He fought a fat, unambitious plodder who hadn't fought in a year and a half and who is the only top class boxer ever to get beaten down by Nikolay Valuev and he was losing the first half of the fight.

    Tony Thompson, Odlanier Solis, Eddie Chambers, Thomasz Adamek and David Haye would all have beaten Lyakhovich much more one sidedly than that. Mike Perez would likely have battered him in a few rounds, I just don't see what was impressive about that performance at all apart from the finish.

    I would put Helenius in a class just above Mike Mollo and MIchael Grant.

    I'd have him level right now with guys like Chris Arreola, Kevin Johnson and Axander Dimitrenko, against any of those I'd have it a pickem fight.

    I think he loses to both Klits, Helenius.
    I didn't say he was ready for a Klitschko Bro right now Bilbo.

    Helenius needs to fight some or all of the pugs you mentioned, and defeat them before taking on Wlad or Vitali. At this point, i'd just say he has tons of potential, but he's got a lot of work yet to do.

    BTW, WTF does his hair have to do with anything, that's just ridiculous.

    ha he just looks ridiculous to me. No muscle, Hatton white, stupid slicked back hair. No real skill, just power. I see nothing to get excited about, but hey, I am still talking about him so I guess he is making noise.

    You say he should fight and beat those guys first, and I agree. But the state of the division right now means he will probably get a title shot offered to him by the end of the year as they have already beaten everybody else.

    For me, the most live challenge out there is a fit, knee healthy Solis. But I don't know if he has the motivation to do what it takes to get in shape. He's a class above the rest though imo.

    I actually think David Price might prove to be better than Helenius in time too. At least he's British..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    .

    I think he would take out Wlad now, but might have trouble with Vitali.
    It's possible, but right now I don't think Helenius takes out either Klitschko brother. I'd like to see him wait another year or 2, get a bit more experience, and then I believe he'll have a better shot at beating both brothers, or at least putting up one hell of a fight.

    It will be interesting to see how the K-Bros do against someone who's an equal in size and power, Helenius is great news for the Heavyweight division.
    Seriously, what is it about Helenius that makes anyone think he could take out Wlad, and especially, possibly right now?

    He fought a fat, unambitious plodder who hadn't fought in a year and a half and who is the only top class boxer ever to get beaten down by Nikolay Valuev and he was losing the first half of the fight.

    Tony Thompson, Odlanier Solis, Eddie Chambers, Thomasz Adamek and David Haye would all have beaten Lyakhovich much more one sidedly than that. Mike Perez would likely have battered him in a few rounds, I just don't see what was impressive about that performance at all apart from the finish.

    I would put Helenius in a class just above Mike Mollo and MIchael Grant.

    I'd have him level right now with guys like Chris Arreola, Kevin Johnson and Axander Dimitrenko, against any of those I'd have it a pickem fight.

    I think he loses to both Klits, Helenius.
    I didn't say he was ready for a Klitschko Bro right now Bilbo.

    Helenius needs to fight some or all of the pugs you mentioned, and defeat them before taking on Wlad or Vitali. At this point, i'd just say he has tons of potential, but he's got a lot of work yet to do.

    BTW, WTF does his hair have to do with anything, that's just ridiculous.

    ha he just looks ridiculous to me. No muscle, Hatton white, stupid slicked back hair. No real skill, just power. I see nothing to get excited about, but hey, I am still talking about him so I guess he is making noise.

    You say he should fight and beat those guys first, and I agree. But the state of the division right now means he will probably get a title shot offered to him by the end of the year as they have already beaten everybody else.

    For me, the most live challenge out there is a fit, knee healthy Solis. But I don't know if he has the motivation to do what it takes to get in shape. He's a class above the rest though imo.

    I actually think David Price might prove to be better than Helenius in time too. At least he's British..
    Bilbo - what does it matter if his skin was Welsh White or Ghanian Black? Also, toned muscle in boxing is overrated. Also, just if you didn't know, Helenius beat David Price in the amateurs.

    However, I agree with you that he is being hyped here a bit much. I agree that he would have trouble with Tony Thompson, Eddie Chambers or Cris Arreola.

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