I never doubted Hops' craftyness. I mean the guy is a slick old fox, but yea, his fights from 2002- present were hardly thrillers. He's like a John Ruiz and Hatton rolled into one.. Punch, grab, punch, grab, punch, grab..

Toney is right. True throwbacks dont even get down like that.

Clinching is a part of the game, true, but when that becomes one of your main tactics, doing it excessively and unnecessarily, it becomes an eye sore not many purists want to see that.

Ive rarely seen him in a sustained boxing match for more than few seconds at a time and it's just real ugly to watch. He's not spontaneous enough to be exciting.