B-Hop vs Dawson ---- Who Wins???

[ross]

I honestly don't know how B-Hop been staying on top of his game. Nor do I know, how he's running from father time. Nonetheless, Hopkins always come ready and in shape. On the other hand, Bad Chad might be the futrure of this division. MIGHT!!!

I loss a lot of money beting against Hopkins. He surely made me respect him. So I can't go against him. But if anyone can beat him decisively, it has to be Dawson.

Who wins?

Did you forget that Pascal already hurt and beat Dawson fairly comfortably?

That's a joke, right? It was a close fight. I'm not saying Dawson won, but he would have if he hadn't taken off the entire middle of the fight. That inclination is his real problem, as someone else here pointed out. If he is truly amped for a fight and fights every round, he dominates the division -- including this version of Hopkins, and definitely including Pascal (and Cloud). I think he's hungry enough for this particular fight that he'll do so. Beyond that, who knows -- bad habits die hard.

Being a fan of slick boxers, I still hope Dawson can step up and fight at his full potential going forward. At his best, he is an elite level guy. I may be in the minority, but I thought the win over Adamek was actually quite enjoyable to watch.

Did he really take the middle of the fight off or can he just not fight for twelve rounds? Somehow I think he'll be taking rounds off against Hopkins too. I definitely see this one going to points after both guys have successful rounds but Hopkins getting the decision.

That is the question, true. But I tend to think it's more the former. It's true that he gets lazy too often. But the Pascal fight was particularly bad. He fought harder and more consistently against Johnson, Tarver, etc. And Johnson, at least, was way busier and put on way more pressure than Pascal -- so I don't think it's a stamina thing (plus, he was coming on strong at the end of the Pascal fight, once he realized he needed to -- clearly had plenty left in the tank). It's more like he gets bored/complacent, and figures he'll just win because he's more talented.

The ason Dawson struggled so badly with Pascal is that Pascal has speed and he was catching and hurting Dawson. Pscal is a decent puncher, he put Hopkins down a couple of times. Dawson was intimidated by Pascals speed and it made him hesitant to work, like Jones opponents used to be. He wasnt used to it after the old plodders hed faced. He got found out against Pascal and Calzaghe would have made him look like what Hopkins did to Pavlik.

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I honestly don't know how B-Hop been staying on top of his game. Nor do I know, how he's running from father time. Nonetheless, Hopkins always come ready and in shape. On the other hand, Bad Chad might be the futrure of this division. MIGHT!!!

I loss a lot of money beting against Hopkins. He surely made me respect him. So I can't go against him. But if anyone can beat him decisively, it has to be Dawson.

Who wins?

Did you forget that Pascal already hurt and beat Dawson fairly comfortably?

That's a joke, right? It was a close fight. I'm not saying Dawson won, but he would have if he hadn't taken off the entire middle of the fight. That inclination is his real problem, as someone else here pointed out. If he is truly amped for a fight and fights every round, he dominates the division -- including this version of Hopkins, and definitely including Pascal (and Cloud). I think he's hungry enough for this particular fight that he'll do so. Beyond that, who knows -- bad habits die hard.

Being a fan of slick boxers, I still hope Dawson can step up and fight at his full potential going forward. At his best, he is an elite level guy. I may be in the minority, but I thought the win over Adamek was actually quite enjoyable to watch.

Did he really take the middle of the fight off or can he just not fight for twelve rounds? Somehow I think he'll be taking rounds off against Hopkins too. I definitely see this one going to points after both guys have successful rounds but Hopkins getting the decision.

That is the question, true. But I tend to think it's more the former. It's true that he gets lazy too often. But the Pascal fight was particularly bad. He fought harder and more consistently against Johnson, Tarver, etc. And Johnson, at least, was way busier and put on way more pressure than Pascal -- so I don't think it's a stamina thing (plus, he was coming on strong at the end of the Pascal fight, once he realized he needed to -- clearly had plenty left in the tank). It's more like he gets bored/complacent, and figures he'll just win because he's more talented.

The ason Dawson struggled so badly with Pascal is that Pascal has speed and he was catching and hurting Dawson. Pscal is a decent puncher, he put Hopkins down a couple of times. Dawson was intimidated by Pascals speed and it made him hesitant to work, like Jones opponents used to be. He wasnt used to it after the old plodders hed faced. He got found out against Pascal and Calzaghe would have made him look like what Hopkins did to Pavlik.

I can't take this seriously -- you just compared Jean Pascal to a prime Roy Jones.

Happy to take any bet you want to make if and when Dawson-Pascal II happens.

[Dia bando]

Dawson did look the better fighter by far, and I feel he's got Hopkins number but the old man will be back to his worst, as the song goes he will beg steal or borrow.
You can't carry on for ever and his time is up and this time Bernard, show some class please I no it's
hard but you can't polish a turd.

[ross]

I honestly don't know how B-Hop been staying on top of his game. Nor do I know, how he's running from father time. Nonetheless, Hopkins always come ready and in shape. On the other hand, Bad Chad might be the futrure of this division. MIGHT!!!

I loss a lot of money beting against Hopkins. He surely made me respect him. So I can't go against him. But if anyone can beat him decisively, it has to be Dawson.

Who wins?

Did you forget that Pascal already hurt and beat Dawson fairly comfortably?

That's a joke, right? It was a close fight. I'm not saying Dawson won, but he would have if he hadn't taken off the entire middle of the fight. That inclination is his real problem, as someone else here pointed out. If he is truly amped for a fight and fights every round, he dominates the division -- including this version of Hopkins, and definitely including Pascal (and Cloud). I think he's hungry enough for this particular fight that he'll do so. Beyond that, who knows -- bad habits die hard.

Being a fan of slick boxers, I still hope Dawson can step up and fight at his full potential going forward. At his best, he is an elite level guy. I may be in the minority, but I thought the win over Adamek was actually quite enjoyable to watch.

Did he really take the middle of the fight off or can he just not fight for twelve rounds? Somehow I think he'll be taking rounds off against Hopkins too. I definitely see this one going to points after both guys have successful rounds but Hopkins getting the decision.

That is the question, true. But I tend to think it's more the former. It's true that he gets lazy too often. But the Pascal fight was particularly bad. He fought harder and more consistently against Johnson, Tarver, etc. And Johnson, at least, was way busier and put on way more pressure than Pascal -- so I don't think it's a stamina thing (plus, he was coming on strong at the end of the Pascal fight, once he realized he needed to -- clearly had plenty left in the tank). It's more like he gets bored/complacent, and figures he'll just win because he's more talented.

The ason Dawson struggled so badly with Pascal is that Pascal has speed and he was catching and hurting Dawson. Pscal is a decent puncher, he put Hopkins down a couple of times. Dawson was intimidated by Pascals speed and it made him hesitant to work, like Jones opponents used to be. He wasnt used to it after the old plodders hed faced. He got found out against Pascal and Calzaghe would have made him look like what Hopkins did to Pavlik.

I can't take this seriously -- you just compared Jean Pascal to a prime Roy Jones.

Happy to take any bet you want to make if and when Dawson-Pascal II happens.

No, I compared Dawsons hesitancy to that of Jones old opponents. Also, Hopkins was landing the right hand fairly easily and Dawson was welcoming all the hugging. It was half way through the second that Dawson stumbles back and then launches in to a hug

[Dia bando]

Hopkins fighting style is extremely is ugly, clever may be exciting is not a word you use in a Hopkins fight
if he ever gets round to writing a book, I may buy it and use it as a door stop for the outside shit house.

[Slim the BoxingManiac]

I don't know what to think of Bernard after the way he bitched out of the first fight with Dawson.

Most people felt the same when he rolled around on the floor in the Calzaghe fight and Jones rematch. Its nothing new

You'll have to excuse me. I've not payed close attention to boxing in recent years. Maybe I should have watched more of his fights. The only fight of him I've seen is him fighting Dawson. All I hear about him is that he's a dirty fighter that tricks everybody. I simply had better fighters to look into.

In other words, I might just be wrong. But he looks like he's going to take any excuse he can to get out of a good fight. Kind of like Judah when he fought Khan.

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I wouldnt go as far as call him a bitch. He knows how to bend the rules. He took on Pavlik when he was feared, he went to canada to fight Pascal and after getting dropped twice, he didnt just move on with the praise of being robbed, he went back and beat him good and proper. He then fought Dawson who barring the Pascal fightis supposedly the best thing the light heavy division has ever seen and hes now rematching him. I wouldnt be surprised to see Dawson spoil as much as Hopkins ever has when those rights start landing again