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    Default Best boxers of all times?

    Just wondering what everyones list is.
    Mine goes like this:

    Ali
    Holyfield
    Sugar Ray Lennard
    Roy Jones
    Marciano

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    A list without SRR will imediately be disregarded in most discussions.

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    Default Re: Best boxers of all times?

    The terms "boxer" and "fighter" are distinctly different, IMO. Whereas "fighter" encompasses the whole package, "boxer" to me specifically addresses the technical side of the fighter. Thus, I can't see where Marciano and Holyfield should be anywhere near that list.

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    Keeping in mind he started as SFW its hard not to think Floyd may just be the best of the bunch.
    SRR was great , but does Floyds jumping through the weights outshine even Ray ?

    That is a question id like people to answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Keeping in mind he started as SFW its hard not to think Floyd may just be the best of the bunch.
    SRR was great , but does Floyds jumping through the weights outshine even Ray ?

    That is a question id like people to answer.
    At this moment in time you would have to say Floyd,is up there with the best of them he's a hell of
    a fighter. To me the best era was the 80's in boxing great fighters and great match ups, if you could turn
    back time and put Floyd, in the mix it would have been very interesting we can't so we can only debait,
    the mater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Keeping in mind he started as SFW its hard not to think Floyd may just be the best of the bunch.
    SRR was great , but does Floyds jumping through the weights outshine even Ray ?

    That is a question id like people to answer.
    There are certain things about SRR's resume Floyd will never be able to match. Not least among them, since you have brought up the issue of weight, is the fact that SRR went up to light heavyweight and completely outclassed and outworked a recognised champion for probably 12 of 13 rounds, before collapsing due to heat exhaustion. If SRR had had the foresight to coast the last few rounds (or even if the fight had been indoors imo) he would almost certainly have been a light heavyweight champion. In total, Ray fought at four different weights, in an era where there was more between the weight classes than there currently is. He started as a lightweight (5 pound difference to where Floyd started at super featherweight) and went up to a higher weight than Floyd is ever going to venture. For the record, Floyd would probably be somewhere around my top 5, but I don't think his going up in weight in any way outshines the achievements of SRR which, frankly, are unparalleled in the sport of boxing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SRR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Keeping in mind he started as SFW its hard not to think Floyd may just be the best of the bunch.
    SRR was great , but does Floyds jumping through the weights outshine even Ray ?

    That is a question id like people to answer.
    There are certain things about SRR's resume Floyd will never be able to match. Not least among them, since you have brought up the issue of weight, is the fact that SRR went up to light heavyweight and completely outclassed and outworked a recognised champion for probably 12 of 13 rounds, before collapsing due to heat exhaustion. If SRR had had the foresight to coast the last few rounds (or even if the fight had been indoors imo) he would almost certainly have been a light heavyweight champion. In total, Ray fought at four different weights, in an era where there was more between the weight classes than there currently is. He started as a lightweight (5 pound difference to where Floyd started at super featherweight) and went up to a higher weight than Floyd is ever going to venture. For the record, Floyd would probably be somewhere around my top 5, but I don't think his going up in weight in any way outshines the achievements of SRR which, frankly, are unparalleled in the sport of boxing.
    For the record Floyd was world champ at SFW and up to and including JM , SRR was champ at WW AND MW.
    Of course different era,s SRR had an amazing ammount of fights , he also had probably 1 thing that Floyd hasnt , BIG POWER to go with speed.
    Last edited by Dark Lord Al; 05-07-2012 at 01:55 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Keeping in mind he started as SFW its hard not to think Floyd may just be the best of the bunch.
    SRR was great , but does Floyds jumping through the weights outshine even Ray ?

    That is a question id like people to answer.
    no one would love to answer "yes" more than I would. But floyd never unified one division. He's been a fan of collecting the wbc strap mostly. Imo srr better resume, but pbf better boxer.

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