Does Chavez Jr. really deserve a rematch?

[TitoFan]

In a word.....

FUCK no.

[ruthless rocco]

the rematch is gonna be great! can't wait to hear the excuses next time around!

[armyash]

Chavez must be kicking himself. He had a massive size advantage but it caused him to be too slow. If he had let his hands go he could have had more success but he was too scared that once he lets his hands go he would be taking 4 shots for each one of his.

The better man won.

[Mars_ax]

Chavez must be kicking himself. He had a massive size advantage but it caused him to be too slow. If he had let his hands go he could have had more success but he was too scared that once he lets his hands go he would be taking 4 shots for each one of his.

The better man won.

Except for perhaps a dozen times or so, Sergio stayed out of the corners and off the ropes, and when Junior did corner Martinez his success was usually minimal, with Sergio giving as good or better then he took.
Fortunately for Junior he was able to score the KD in the last round, because otherwise this fight would have been 12-0 and viewed as a one-sided beatdown, by a consummate pro over a rank amateur. The KD probably salvaged Junior's career and reputation, and made it seem a little less humiliating, but make no mistake, Sergio punked this kid badly.

[Kirkland Laing]

Chavez must be kicking himself. He had a massive size advantage but it caused him to be too slow. If he had let his hands go he could have had more success but he was too scared that once he lets his hands go he would be taking 4 shots for each one of his.

The better man won.

There was another reason he wasn't letting his hands go. It was that just before he was going to throw a punch Martinez was punching him in the head and to the body and then getting the fuck out of the way. Martinez has much faster hands and feet and a longer reach and it doesn't matter if Junior had come into the ring at 158 he still would have been slower than Martinez.


Also, too. Does anybody think if Martinez is going to miss serious time with the knee injury that Sulaiman will strip his belt and give it back to Junior?

[Rantcatrat]

Chavez must be kicking himself. He had a massive size advantage but it caused him to be too slow. If he had let his hands go he could have had more success but he was too scared that once he lets his hands go he would be taking 4 shots for each one of his.

The better man won.

Except for perhaps a dozen times or so, Sergio stayed out of the corners and off the ropes, and when Junior did corner Martinez his success was usually minimal, with Sergio giving as good or better then he took.
Fortunately for Junior he was able to score the KD in the last round, because otherwise this fight would have been 12-0 and viewed as a one-sided beatdown, by a consummate pro over a rank amateur. The KD probably salvaged Junior's career and reputation, and made it seem a little less humiliating, but make no mistake, Sergio punked this kid badly.

This is correct. A rematch is unnecessary. I prefer Martinez versus Canelo or Cotto.

[armyash]

I agree with what has been said there can be no argument for Chavez having much success apart from the final round. Even when he had Martinez on the ropes he couldn't take advantage. Martinez was too fast, he showed a good chin and was just too good. Chavez looked inexperienced following Martinez around the ring with his hands up.

I like the point that the 12th round probably saved Chavez career.

[TitoFan]

In a word.....

FUCK no.

After some careful thought, I'd like to elaborate on my answer......


Oh hell..... FUCK no!

[TitoFan]

No... seriously. Rematch for what? Martinez pitched the equivalent of a "perfect game" at the clueless Chavez Jr...... broken hand and all..... and only got careless in the final round. And instead of getting on his bicycle, what does he do? Continues trading with Chavez and getting in his own shots. Had Chavez not had that brief moment in the sun, it would've been one of the most lopsided beating in history.

Chavez needs to move up to cruiserweight already and quit making a mockery of traditional weigh-ins. Now that the precious "0" is history, maybe they (Chavez camp, including Sulaiman) can relax and continue fighting credible opposition.

[IamInuit]

No

[captainanddew]

Chavez must be kicking himself. He had a massive size advantage but it caused him to be too slow. If he had let his hands go he could have had more success but he was too scared that once he lets his hands go he would be taking 4 shots for each one of his.

The better man won.

There was another reason he wasn't letting his hands go. It was that just before he was going to throw a punch Martinez was punching him in the head and to the body and then getting the fuck out of the way. Martinez has much faster hands and feet and a longer reach and it doesn't matter if Junior had come into the ring at 158 he still would have been slower than Martinez.


Also, too. Does anybody think if Martinez is going to miss serious time with the knee injury that Sulaiman will strip his belt and give it back to Junior?

1-Sulaiman is chavez jr's godfather
2-sulaiman still believes that chavez sr was robbed when pernell whitaker "got" a draw against chavez sr (if you haven't seen the fight, then watch it on youtube)

those 2 things tell you all you need to know about sulaiman.

will he strip sergio-if he can find a way, he will.

[captainanddew]

as for stripping of the belt? who cares.

as fans we need to stop giving creedence to the abc organizations. Their belts mean nothing.

does anyone believe that chavez jr/zbik- ever deserved to be fighting to be any kind of champion

have you looked at the top 10 lists for the organizations?? most of the lists have guys that no unbaised group would put in the top 30.

[Beanflicker]

If Chavez gets an immediate rematch, then boxing is in worse shape than I thought.

[armyash]

If Chavez gets an immediate rematch, then boxing is in worse shape than I thought.

If Chavez was made mandatory or something equally as stupid immediately then I agree. If Martinez wanted to make a rematch for the cash then I won't begrudge that for him at 37.

Would rather see him face someone else. Alvarez if possible.

[Beanflicker]

If Chavez gets an immediate rematch, then boxing is in worse shape than I thought.

If Chavez was made mandatory or something equally as stupid immediately then I agree. If Martinez wanted to make a rematch for the cash then I won't begrudge that for him at 37.

Would rather see him face someone else. Alvarez if possible.

I wouldn't hate on Martinez for taking a big payday for an easy rematch. I just think that if there is big money in a rematch and people are willing to pay for it, it just shows how used they are to having crap shoveled down their throat by boxing's powers that be. You couldn't get me to watch that rematch for free - there's no mystery what the outcome will be.