Requirements for a fight with Andre Ward

[Freedom]

1) There can be no PED testing (no OST, no VADA)

- Kessler, Abraham and Rodriguez all wanted PED testing, Ward said "NO" during negotiations for Abraham and Kessler fights.

2) Fight must be at 168

- Regardless of whether you're a light heavyweight, super middleweight or middleweight. Dawson asked for 170, Ward insisted on 168.

3) Fight must be in in California

- Ward has never fought a contender outside of the USA and only once as a pro fought a live opponent outside California.

4) Referee must be from California

- maybe in certain cases a shady foreign referee or a nationalistic American referee like Steve Smoger would let Ward foul (hit while holding, hit off the break and deliberately head butt) but Andre Ward feels more secure with a California Boxing Commission referee

[Ron Swanson]

Is this really what discussing boxing has become? As a fan of the sport I'm embarrassed to admit I read the entire post.

[beenKOed]

Is this really what discussing boxing has become? As a fan of the sport I'm embarrassed to admit I read the entire post.

Saddo Boxing Talk is a free swinging forum, within the rules, so you are probably going to be disappointed, a lot.

[IamInuit]

Is this really what discussing boxing has become? As a fan of the sport I'm embarrassed to admit I read the entire post.

Whats wrong with what he said Ron? Looks pretty factual to me although he's only done the weight strip with Dawson. What bothers me is almost immediately after he was talking about going to 175. The guy thinks he's the reincarnation of Robinson or as big as Mayweather and he cant draw flies to a shit parade.

[beenKOed]

Is this really what discussing boxing has become? As a fan of the sport I'm embarrassed to admit I read the entire post.

Whats wrong with what he said Ron? Looks pretty factual to me although he's only done the weight strip with Dawson. What bothers me is almost immediately after he was talking about going to 175. The guy thinks he's the reincarnation of Robinson or as big as Mayweather and he cant draw flies to a shit parade.

See what I'm saying!

[IamInuit]

Is this really what discussing boxing has become? As a fan of the sport I'm embarrassed to admit I read the entire post.

Whats wrong with what he said Ron? Looks pretty factual to me although he's only done the weight strip with Dawson. What bothers me is almost immediately after he was talking about going to 175. The guy thinks he's the reincarnation of Robinson or as big as Mayweather and he cant draw flies to a shit parade.

See what I'm saying!

What are you talking about?

[Beanflicker]

What's wrong with #2? Can't blame a guy for wanting to stick to his weight class.

[Freedom]

What's wrong with #2? Can't blame a guy for wanting to stick to his weight class.

Joe Calzaghe left his home country and moved up to 175 to fight Ring champion Bernard Hopkins in the USA.

But Ward is not a courageous ring warrior like Joe. Ward's a pampered, selfish prima donna.

[Hulk]

What's wrong with #2? Can't blame a guy for wanting to stick to his weight class.

Joe Calzaghe left his home country and moved up to 175 to fight Ring champion Bernard Hopkins in the USA.

But Ward is not a courageous ring warrior like Joe. Ward's a pampered, selfish prima donna.

Lol yes yes Joe was never afraid to leave the UK and fight the very best in their prime on their turf....

[Freedom]

Lol yes yes Joe was never afraid to leave the UK and fight the very best in their prime on their turf....

Joe fought contenders many times outside Wales, even though unlike Ward he was immensely popular and attracted huge crowds in his home country.

Calzaghe fought in the USA, Denmark and Germany. Ward has never fought a single contender outside his home country.

[Master]

Ward will come to the UK and beat Froch if they paid him enough.

[Beanflicker]

What's wrong with #2? Can't blame a guy for wanting to stick to his weight class.

Joe Calzaghe left his home country and moved up to 175 to fight Ring champion Bernard Hopkins in the USA.

But Ward is not a courageous ring warrior like Joe. Ward's a pampered, selfish prima donna.

I give Calzaghe credit for coming over to fight Bhop and Jones, but he's not exactly "Road Warrior" Glen Johnson himself.

[Bo-Bo24]

Ward will come to the UK and beat Froch if they paid him enough.

I'd love him to come over here and beat Froch, its a fight that would definately sell out a football stadium in England. Thing is Froch could make just as much money fighting people he can actually beat so I don't see them paying Ward too much.

[Master]

Ward will come to the UK and beat Froch if they paid him enough.

I'd love him to come over here and beat Froch, its a fight that would definately sell out a football stadium in England. Thing is Froch could make just as much money fighting people he can actually beat so I don't see them paying Ward too much.

Agreed but eventually he will have to fight him to avenge his defeat.

[Freedom]

Since Ward fought at 175 in the amateurs, there can only be one reason he insisted Dawson fight him at 168: he wanted Chad to be weight-drained.

That was unsportsmanlike, and very selfish for someone who calls himself the "Son of God".