Andre Ward will never be popular or an ATG

[Prime Pam's Puppies]

He dominates. That's what matters most.

[beenKOed]

He dominates. That's what matters most.

Not to Ward, he's plainly dissatisfied with the way things are going. He's not getting the big fights, the money, or the fame he wants.

[brocktonblockbust]

He dominates. That's what matters most.

Not to Ward, he's plainly dissatisfied with the way things are going. He's not getting the big fights, the money, or the fame he wants.

like winky wright, he may have talent, bnut will never be recognized./ never make the big bucks.

[erics44]

Oh wait i got it you shit one Wald and Calzaghe but do nothing but praise Ward and Mayweather. I wonder what Wald and Cazlaghe have in common that you hate there so different but oh wait there white thats got to be it. Sorry if hate white people i guess i not sure what else it could be about it.

Oh stop crying.

Compared to Ward and Mayweather,

Vlad and Calzhage ARE shit...as you well know.

If Vlad and Joke were Black you'd be rolling across the floor laughing at that trash.

We're not hard-up for hero's like ya'll are...we don't have to prop up any and everything that oozes between the ropes for lack of quality fighters.

The bar is set much higher in the US.

Look at all Mayweather has done and he still gets stick...compare his career to Joe's if you want a good laugh.

Floyd's career is better than Joe and Vlad's combined...same with his skills.

nob

[cyclone]

Poppycock.

Froch would catch cal-soggy.

Late ko.

As usual for carl.

Remind me how many times Joe Calzaghe has been knocked out? How many times has Froch been out boxed?

calzaghe has never been knocked out.

froch has been outboxed 2, maybe 3 times.

so what? Froch can cathc up and knock Joe out, about round 9 or 10. Are you saying its impossible?

In Boxing anything is possible but it is highly improbable.

Remember Joe beat Roy.

After he had been brutally KO'd by Tarver and Ottke's leftovers....Glenn Johnson..

The same Johnson Joe shamelessly ducked.

[cyclone]

Oh wait i got it you shit one Wald and Calzaghe but do nothing but praise Ward and Mayweather. I wonder what Wald and Cazlaghe have in common that you hate there so different but oh wait there white thats got to be it. Sorry if hate white people i guess i not sure what else it could be about it.

Oh stop crying.

Compared to Ward and Mayweather,

Vlad and Calzhage ARE shit...as you well know.

If Vlad and Joke were Black you'd be rolling across the floor laughing at that trash.

We're not hard-up for hero's like ya'll are...we don't have to prop up any and everything that oozes between the ropes for lack of quality fighters.

The bar is set much higher in the US.

Look at all Mayweather has done and he still gets stick...compare his career to Joe's if you want a good laugh.

Floyd's career is better than Joe and Vlad's combined...same with his skills.

nob

I'm a nob for telling the truth..OK then.

[cyclone]

He dominates. That's what matters most.

Not to Ward, he's plainly dissatisfied with the way things are going. He's not getting the big fights, the money, or the fame he wants.

like winky wright, he may have talent, bnut will never be recognized./ never make the big bucks.

Ward is making bigger bucks than GG and Kovalev.

Hell

Ward's last OPPONENT made more than those two ever have.

[cyclone]

He dominates. That's what matters most.

Exactly

[cyclone]

Oh wait i got it you shit one Wald and Calzaghe but do nothing but praise Ward and Mayweather. I wonder what Wald and Cazlaghe have in common that you hate there so different but oh wait there white thats got to be it. Sorry if hate white people i guess i not sure what else it could be about it.

Oh stop crying.

Compared to Ward and Mayweather,

Vlad and Calzhage ARE shit...as you well know.

If Vlad and Joke were Black you'd be rolling across the floor laughing at that trash.

We're not hard-up for hero's like ya'll are...we don't have to prop up any and everything that oozes between the ropes for lack of quality fighters.

The bar is set much higher in the US.

Look at all Mayweather has done and he still gets stick...compare his career to Joe's if you want a good laugh.

Floyd's career is better than Joe and Vlad's combined...same with his skills.

Shows what I know. I thought Ward was white and I still dont like him. Hes a great boxer but dont enjoy his style.

I'd rather watch Ward than Joe Calzhage..

So would you.

Hell I'd rather watch Sven Ottke than The Welsh Rabbit.

Ottke laid Mundine out COLD.

Joe never score a flat out KO.

Kessler couldn't stop Mundine and he's supposed to be all that.

Ottke was feather fisted and it was a freak shot that knocked out Mundine. Ottke never did it again.

Joe was more featherfist than Ottke.

Ottke knocked a guy COLD...

Joe NEVER did that.

Ottke fought Glenn Johnson...a guy Joe wouldn't go near.

[Master]

Oh wait i got it you shit one Wald and Calzaghe but do nothing but praise Ward and Mayweather. I wonder what Wald and Cazlaghe have in common that you hate there so different but oh wait there white thats got to be it. Sorry if hate white people i guess i not sure what else it could be about it.

Oh stop crying.

Compared to Ward and Mayweather,

Vlad and Calzhage ARE shit...as you well know.

If Vlad and Joke were Black you'd be rolling across the floor laughing at that trash.

We're not hard-up for hero's like ya'll are...we don't have to prop up any and everything that oozes between the ropes for lack of quality fighters.

The bar is set much higher in the US.

Look at all Mayweather has done and he still gets stick...compare his career to Joe's if you want a good laugh.

Floyd's career is better than Joe and Vlad's combined...same with his skills.

Shows what I know. I thought Ward was white and I still dont like him. Hes a great boxer but dont enjoy his style.

I'd rather watch Ward than Joe Calzhage..

So would you.

Hell I'd rather watch Sven Ottke than The Welsh Rabbit.

Ottke laid Mundine out COLD.

Joe never score a flat out KO.

Kessler couldn't stop Mundine and he's supposed to be all that.

Ottke was feather fisted and it was a freak shot that knocked out Mundine. Ottke never did it again.

Joe was more featherfist than Ottke.

Ottke knocked a guy COLD...

Joe NEVER did that.

Ottke fought Glenn Johnson...a guy Joe wouldn't go near.

Joe put down Eubanks, not many people do that.

[imp]

Eubanks was past his prime but then theres any excuse for every single fighter out there to suit how that fan or person feels..

JC beat eubank and every single fighter after that..got to give him props regardless of his colour.

Cyclone, bit of advice buddy dont turn into the black finito and start talking about race and all that bollocks because its a bit childish and theres no need for any of that on here.

Floyd is the best out there and the highest paid athlete ever but he didnt get there by playing the good guy so thats why alot of negativity is thrown at him but people still want to see him loose and pay for his fights.

To compare him to JC is a compliment in both ways as they both had skills that no opponent has yet to better.

[imp]

He dominates. That's what matters most.

Not to Ward, he's plainly dissatisfied with the way things are going. He's not getting the big fights, the money, or the fame he wants.

Perhaps under golden boy or al haymon they might put andre in a different light.?

Sorry, I like andre ward character and the fact he has a clean personal life and seems like a great family man who is dedicated to boxing like so many others.

Andre ward is far better to watch than winky wright and i think he has an appeal that not everyone gets but on paper he is beating every style out there..he is getting better.

JC stayed at 168 most of his career as not everyone can go up and down in weight so easy so this could be wards weight until he also reaches those twilight years..

The problem people have is what ward does in the ring but imo its a lot better to watch than hopkins or froch and I like all these fighters.

[cyclone]

Cyclone why are you such a troll with Calzaghe i mean such hate for the man did he fuck your mom or something every thread don't get it. I mean the guy beat Kessler, bika, Lacy and Hopkins who still winning and also had 20 defenses with being the man at smw and lhw retired undefeated as well.

Jermain Taylor beat Hopkins before Joe did.

Big deal.

All Calzhage had to do was go to the states and fight Hopking in 01 instead of foolishly expecting Hopkins to drop everything and fight him in Whales.

Hop was riding high off beating Tito...Joe was fresh off his sintilating victory over the dreaded TOKKER PUDWELL.

He could have EASILLY fought RJJ in his prime but ADMITTED he stood 0 chance.
James Toney was around too..but Joe wasn't.

Who did Kessler and Bika beat to be so highly praised

Sven Ottke fought and beat Glenn Johnson..

Joe SHAMELESSLY ducked him...Jim Lampley said it on the air and he's a Joe ball-washer.

Joe played it safe.... even the refs playing it safe for him by jumping in to stop fights for no reason.

Mayweather would have a 99% KO record if he had refs jump in to stop fights just because he was swinging at the air.

Name ONE american fighter that could get away with fighting the LOSER of an elimination bout.
Name ONE american fighter that has refs jump to stop fights for nothing.
Name ONE american fighter that slaps at the air like a spastic monkey yet is considered an ATG.
Name ONE american fighter that can hide behind the weakest belt and duck the best comp without being roundly critisized.

American fighters are held to a higher standard for a reason.

How about Mayweather fighting Judah on the back of his loss to Baldomir?

He tried to fight Baldo but he wanted to defend his title against Gatti before basically handing his belt over to Mayweather.

Judah didnt get KTFO like the guy Scary Joe cherrypicked.

Judah > Brewer

[ross]

Cyclone why are you such a troll with Calzaghe i mean such hate for the man did he fuck your mom or something every thread don't get it. I mean the guy beat Kessler, bika, Lacy and Hopkins who still winning and also had 20 defenses with being the man at smw and lhw retired undefeated as well.

Jermain Taylor beat Hopkins before Joe did.

Big deal.

All Calzhage had to do was go to the states and fight Hopking in 01 instead of foolishly expecting Hopkins to drop everything and fight him in Whales.

Hop was riding high off beating Tito...Joe was fresh off his sintilating victory over the dreaded TOKKER PUDWELL.

He could have EASILLY fought RJJ in his prime but ADMITTED he stood 0 chance.
James Toney was around too..but Joe wasn't.

Who did Kessler and Bika beat to be so highly praised

Sven Ottke fought and beat Glenn Johnson..

Joe SHAMELESSLY ducked him...Jim Lampley said it on the air and he's a Joe ball-washer.

Joe played it safe.... even the refs playing it safe for him by jumping in to stop fights for no reason.

Mayweather would have a 99% KO record if he had refs jump in to stop fights just because he was swinging at the air.

Name ONE american fighter that could get away with fighting the LOSER of an elimination bout.
Name ONE american fighter that has refs jump to stop fights for nothing.
Name ONE american fighter that slaps at the air like a spastic monkey yet is considered an ATG.
Name ONE american fighter that can hide behind the weakest belt and duck the best comp without being roundly critisized.

American fighters are held to a higher standard for a reason.

How about Mayweather fighting Judah on the back of his loss to Baldomir?

He tried to fight Baldo but he wanted to defend his title against Gatti before basically handing his belt over to Mayweather.

Judah didnt get KTFO like the guy Scary Joe cherrypicked.

Judah > Brewer

Judah was beaten convicingly by Baldomir.

[erics44]

Oh wait i got it you shit one Wald and Calzaghe but do nothing but praise Ward and Mayweather. I wonder what Wald and Cazlaghe have in common that you hate there so different but oh wait there white thats got to be it. Sorry if hate white people i guess i not sure what else it could be about it.

Oh stop crying.

Compared to Ward and Mayweather,

Vlad and Calzhage ARE shit...as you well know.

If Vlad and Joke were Black you'd be rolling across the floor laughing at that trash.

We're not hard-up for hero's like ya'll are...we don't have to prop up any and everything that oozes between the ropes for lack of quality fighters.

The bar is set much higher in the US.

Look at all Mayweather has done and he still gets stick...compare his career to Joe's if you want a good laugh.

Floyd's career is better than Joe and Vlad's combined...same with his skills.

nob

I'm a nob for telling the truth..OK then.

I agree, you're a nob