The art of Infighting is a lost art

[Sleepwalker]

That's all I have to say.

[Andre]

Who was the last then?

[Beanflicker]

To be fair, Mayweather historically is one of the best and most effective infighters of all time. He just had no interest doing it vs. a very rough hard hitter like Maidana.

[mikeeod]

To be fair, Mayweather historically is one of the best and most effective infighters of all time. He just had no interest doing it vs. a very rough hard hitter like Maidana.

Just curious if you place Floyd on the same level as guys like Duran and Julio Ceasar Chavez (sr., of course!)? Floyd impressed me with his infighting ability vs Hatton, but I feel like he was ineffective vs Maidana and Castillo which is why he reverted to a more mobile style in both rematches. I'm not sure I would consider Floyd one of the greatest in fighters ever due to his performances in those fights, but the guy is definitely capable in my opinion.

[Beanflicker]

Just curious if you place Floyd on the same level as guys like Duran and Julio Ceasar Chavez (sr., of course!)? Floyd impressed me with his infighting ability vs Hatton, but I feel like he was ineffective vs Maidana and Castillo which is why he reverted to a more mobile style in both rematches. I'm not sure I would consider Floyd one of the greatest in fighters ever due to his performances in those fights, but the guy is definitely capable in my opinion.

If you look at effectiveness on the inside - damage done vs damage received - Mayweather is one of the greatest in-fighters there's ever been. In-fighting is not all about offensive, you have to factor in defence as well, and even now in his older age Floyd is probably the hardest guy to land clean on on the inside in the history of boxing.

I wouldn't put Floyd up with a true inside fighter because inside fighting is only one aspect of Floyd's game whereas real inside guys live and die on the inside, but in terms of stifling offence and landing his own accurate counter shots, Floyd has to be acknowledged as a truly great inside guy.

I'll say this too, and I know I'll get tons of people disagreeing with me: prime Floyd (130-140) gets the better of prime Duran (135) on the inside.

[Manos de Piedra]

Just curious if you place Floyd on the same level as guys like Duran and Julio Ceasar Chavez (sr., of course!)? Floyd impressed me with his infighting ability vs Hatton, but I feel like he was ineffective vs Maidana and Castillo which is why he reverted to a more mobile style in both rematches. I'm not sure I would consider Floyd one of the greatest in fighters ever due to his performances in those fights, but the guy is definitely capable in my opinion.

If you look at effectiveness on the inside - damage done vs damage received - Mayweather is one of the greatest in-fighters there's ever been. In-fighting is not all about offensive, you have to factor in defence as well, and even now in his older age Floyd is probably the hardest guy to land clean on on the inside in the history of boxing.

I wouldn't put Floyd up with a true inside fighter because inside fighting is only one aspect of Floyd's game whereas real inside guys live and die on the inside, but in terms of stifling offence and landing his own accurate counter shots, Floyd has to be acknowledged as a truly great inside guy.

I'll say this too, and I know I'll get tons of people disagreeing with me: prime Floyd (130-140) gets the better of prime Duran (135) on the inside.

Interesting post.
I do think Mayweather was a better fighter down at those weights than he is now but I wouldn't be wise of him to try to go on the inside against Duran. His best chance would be to box and stay on his bike.

[mikeeod]

I have to say again, I don't feel Floyd is a great infighter. He is a slick guy and hard to hit inside, but not effective at slipping and breaking the other guy down on the level of a James Toney, Duran or Chavez. Those guys take u apart if u stand in front of them, even if u r much larger. Floyd is slick and versatile, but he isn't as dominant as those guys inside. That being said, I don't think those guys r as fast or able to control the outside like Floyd does either.

[beenKOed]

That's all I have to say.

Don't worry about it, you don't have to say much.
It's like a troll-ethon to see who can mention Floyd first.

[DavilaJones]

Ward might fight ugly on the inside but he is effective. If you're talking about pretty in fighting then Floyd and before him Tony were god damn great at it.