Has Wlad whipped more undefeated fighters than anyone?

[El Kabong]

Peter, provetkin he should have been dq'd

amongst others

His record is money

Hahaha pathetic

[erics44]

Peter, provetkin he should have been dq'd

amongst others

His record is money

Hahaha pathetic

Ha first time you haven't called me ginger when you've had no other comeback

[El Kabong]

Peter, provetkin he should have been dq'd

amongst others

His record is money

Hahaha pathetic

Ha first time you haven't called me ginger when you've had no other comeback

What's there to come back to? You're saying 100% of the refs Wladimir Klitschko has had in the ring with him are either on the take OR are too stupid to do a proper job and that is a claim that is so frivolous that it is a testament to how absolutely mental you must be to believe such bullshit....ergo no "comeback"

[erics44]

Peter, provetkin he should have been dq'd

amongst others

His record is money

Hahaha pathetic

Ha first time you haven't called me ginger when you've had no other comeback

What's there to come back to? You're saying 100% of the refs Wladimir Klitschko has had in the ring with him are either on the take OR are too stupid to do a proper job and that is a claim that is so frivolous that it is a testament to how absolutely mental you must be to believe such bullshit....ergo no "comeback"

What I'm saying is it's absolutely clear as day he should have been dq'd in those two fights, provetkin in particular, there can be no argument

Why wasn't he? it's pretty obvious to me

[El Kabong]

Peter, provetkin he should have been dq'd

amongst others

His record is money

Hahaha pathetic

Ha first time you haven't called me ginger when you've had no other comeback

What's there to come back to? You're saying 100% of the refs Wladimir Klitschko has had in the ring with him are either on the take OR are too stupid to do a proper job and that is a claim that is so frivolous that it is a testament to how absolutely mental you must be to believe such bullshit....ergo no "comeback"

What I'm saying is it's absolutely clear as day he should have been dq'd in those two fights, provetkin in particular, there can be no argument

Why wasn't he? it's pretty obvious to me

And you have been a licensed professional boxing referee for how long now?

[SlimTrae]

dominant.

dominant

My bad...
EXTREMELY DOMINANT.

[erics44]

Peter, provetkin he should have been dq'd

amongst others

His record is money

Hahaha pathetic

Ha first time you haven't called me ginger when you've had no other comeback

What's there to come back to? You're saying 100% of the refs Wladimir Klitschko has had in the ring with him are either on the take OR are too stupid to do a proper job and that is a claim that is so frivolous that it is a testament to how absolutely mental you must be to believe such bullshit....ergo no "comeback"

What I'm saying is it's absolutely clear as day he should have been dq'd in those two fights, provetkin in particular, there can be no argument

Why wasn't he? it's pretty obvious to me

And you have been a licensed professional boxing referee for how long now?

i just know the rules

and i reckon anyone who does know the rules, being honest with themselves they would at least be a bit suspicious about those fights

why was a fighter allowed the cheat to such an extreme during a fight?

its not just those two fights either, i just cant be bothered to check to see the extremes he went to in other fights

[Mr140]

Ok eric tell me this then how many high level title fights hell i go with hw titles has there been a dq for holding if you can answer that then you have some ground to stand on. I have never seen a hw be dqed for holding Ali and Holmes would be fucked if that happened as well as most champs to fight really.

[erics44]

Ok eric tell me this then how many high level title fights hell i go with hw titles has there been a dq for holding if you can answer that then you have some ground to stand on. I have never seen a hw be dqed for holding Ali and Holmes would be fucked if that happened as well as most champs to fight really.

if you total the amount of times Ali held in all of his championship fights it wouldnt be as many times as wlad held in the first round against provetkin

other fighters bend the rules, hold, use elbows, heads, push, pull down

wlad is the extreme of the extremes, theres never been a fighter, never mind a champion anything like it before, there has been no precedent, his style can be compared to no one elses

the fight against provetkin was shocking, the second sam peter fight was at a similar level

[Beanflicker]

Holmes has him tied.

Ray Mercer (18-0)

Carl Williams (16-0)

David Bey (14-0)

Marvis Frazier (10-0)

Scott Frank (20-0)

Tim Witherspoon (15-0)

Gerry Cooney (25-0)

Renaldo Snipes (22-0)

Leroy Jones (24-0)

Ossie Ocasio (13-0)

Kevin Isaac (2-0)


Wlad's opposition: 246-0 combined

Holmes' opposition: 179-0 combined


So I guess Wlad wins.

[El Kabong]

Holmes had an era where there were a lot of young guys who jumped at the chance of fighting The Champ and it was a great thing because nobody could complain about anything other than the fighters being a bit green but still the fights got made, there were rematches if deserved, and Holmes dominated.

Wlad has had a hard time finding opponents, it took years for the Haye fight to happen, years for the Povetkin fight to happen, years for unification of the WBO, IBF, and WBA belts. Some heavyweights have suffered losses in that time when they were close to getting a title shot, like Arreola and Solis for example.

[Mr140]

Eric i think you are pretty biased against Wlad since he beat Haye i know you said you mad mony off a bet but since that fight all you done bitch about holding. I mean you never said a word about holding till after that fight about Wlad use to say he was a great heavy that could beat the 60's as well dude.

[erics44]

Eric i think you are pretty biased against Wlad since he beat Haye i know you said you mad mony off a bet but since that fight all you done bitch about holding. I mean you never said a word about holding till after that fight about Wlad use to say he was a great heavy that could beat the 60's as well dude.

Fliipin nora, good memory about the bet, 25 euros on me mates stag do, I never really watched before tho, I started watching since and I thought fuk me this isn't boxing, how's he getting away with it, then it twigged

It will twig with you one day

[erics44]

Eric i think you are pretty biased against Wlad since he beat Haye i know you said you mad mony off a bet but since that fight all you done bitch about holding. I mean you never said a word about holding till after that fight about Wlad use to say he was a great heavy that could beat the 60's as well dude.

Fliipin nora, good memory about the bet, 25 euros on me mates stag do, I never really watched before tho, I started watching since and I thought fuk me this isn't boxing, how's he getting away with it, then it twigged

It will twig with you one day

Or was it 35, I can't remember