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    I've always thought this is for undisciplined boxer/fighters or showing off. It is a cardinal sin IMO. You can get away with doing it against lesser fighter but you are putting yourself in danger and it is only a matter of time a quality opponent proves this to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    I've always thought this is for undisciplined boxer/fighters or showing off. It is a cardinal sin IMO. You can get away with doing it against lesser fighter but you are putting yourself in danger and it is only a matter of time a quality opponent proves this to you.
    Orthodox to southpaw? yes, it is pretty advanced. However, guys like Hagler!, Pirog, Hamed and some other english boxers prove it is possible and can be effective

    Meanwhile, many fighters use mutliple stances: orthodox, crunch, peekaboo in the same fight. Watch Tyson for instance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NVSemin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    I've always thought this is for undisciplined boxer/fighters or showing off. It is a cardinal sin IMO. You can get away with doing it against lesser fighter but you are putting yourself in danger and it is only a matter of time a quality opponent proves this to you.
    Orthodox to southpaw? yes, it is pretty advanced. However, guys like Hagler!, Pirog, Hamed and some other english boxers prove it is possible and can be effective

    Meanwhile, many fighters use mutliple stances: orthodox, crunch, peekaboo in the same fight. Watch Tyson for instance.
    pirog? seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NVSemin View Post
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    I've always thought this is for undisciplined boxer/fighters or showing off. It is a cardinal sin IMO. You can get away with doing it against lesser fighter but you are putting yourself in danger and it is only a matter of time a quality opponent proves this to you.
    Orthodox to southpaw? yes, it is pretty advanced. However, guys like Hagler!, Pirog, Hamed and some other english boxers prove it is possible and can be effective

    Meanwhile, many fighters use mutliple stances: orthodox, crunch, peekaboo in the same fight. Watch Tyson for instance.
    pirog? seriously?
    Jacob KO?
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    I cant remember the last fighter I saw use it as an actual working technique against over commitment,maybe Roy but he went more squarish to lure them in nail them on the move and swoop out the opposite way.
    Nazes leg flexibility and strength allowed him to stay close and use it for leverage too.

    The rest of the time its annoying to watch and mostly done at a safe distance then re-engaging. Cant believe they dont get caught out more right on the change when doing it for no reason. (specially switching back and forwards ). I bet no one is taught how to read it coming or how to deal with it mid stride when they are open and not set in a stance.

    Dropping coiling then launching at them with the rear hand into a flying hook into the side they are turning to will catch their feet parallel to the direction of your force,thats just one way for distance. Or to react up close like following a dance partner in, but cracking them with your lead mid their step.
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    Crawford seemed comfortable changing up but he was able to keep Beltran at a distance it gave him a lot of latitude. Shiming does it every other punch but as soon as he faces a worthy opponent I think that will change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    Dropping coiling then launching at them with the rear hand into a flying hook into the side they are turning to will catch their feet parallel to the direction of your force,thats just one way for distance.
    Exactly Andre.

    To add to this, I have seen many times, an orthodox fighter try to throw the right hand as 'send-off' as the opponent is moving across them but remain in an orthodox stance only to get nailed with something in return. Usually fighters who are not as athletic as they think.

    If they did as you mention, they would actually be better equipped to defend themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NVSemin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NVSemin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    I've always thought this is for undisciplined boxer/fighters or showing off. It is a cardinal sin IMO. You can get away with doing it against lesser fighter but you are putting yourself in danger and it is only a matter of time a quality opponent proves this to you.
    Orthodox to southpaw? yes, it is pretty advanced. However, guys like Hagler!, Pirog, Hamed and some other english boxers prove it is possible and can be effective

    Meanwhile, many fighters use mutliple stances: orthodox, crunch, peekaboo in the same fight. Watch Tyson for instance.
    pirog? seriously?
    Jacob KO?
    I know but this is supposed to be fighters being able to do it on an elite level. Pirogs claim to fame was beating Jacobs and that's all.

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    Odd that the converted southpaws never switched back in their fights save Cotto who looked lost when he did. Cooney never did, Basilio, Oscar, Tyson etc.

    Even Winky who was a converted right hander never went orthodox in his fights. Its a real smart move for those that have worked on it for certain styles. It was a perfect game plan for both Fury and Crawford given the two rinse and repeat one handed fighters they were about to have a go with and judging by what I saw, both Beltran and Chisora looked like deer in the headlights for the duration.

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    If a fighter hurts his hand/ shoulder sometimes he will try it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    I've always thought this is for undisciplined boxer/fighters or showing off. It is a cardinal sin IMO. You can get away with doing it against lesser fighter but you are putting yourself in danger and it is only a matter of time a quality opponent proves this to you.
    You are wrong, Crawford does it flawlessly. It's a great advantage, to switch up gives your opponent another thing to think about, especially if you are really effective in either stance. Another tool in a fighters toolbox.
    Great hand and foot speed, decent power, excellent boxing, and the ability to switch stance is a dynamite combination. In my opinion, of course!

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    I've always thought this is for undisciplined boxer/fighters or showing off. It is a cardinal sin IMO. You can get away with doing it against lesser fighter but you are putting yourself in danger and it is only a matter of time a quality opponent proves this to you.
    You are wrong, Crawford does it flawlessly. It's a great advantage, to switch up gives your opponent another thing to think about, especially if you are really effective in either stance. Another tool in a fighters toolbox.
    Great hand and foot speed, decent power, excellent boxing, and the ability to switch stance is a dynamite combination. In my opinion, of course!
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    Crawford is best at it at the moment and even I think he puts himself in equal danger. I think real disciplined fighters select their best stance and remain in it. Crawford when put in against elite opposition will not get away with this. I think he is just show boating while he is still fighting b level fighters.

    Don't forget vision plays a major part in fighting and switching stance will confuse the mind during mid fight. It make look like a cool idea for amateurs but this is a cardinal sin for elite boxers.

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    Junior witter is another one that loves to change stance.

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    Miguel Cotto had tremendous success fighting southpaw.

    I think there are guys that can do it and do it seamlessly but it takes a lot of training, a lot of skill, and it's not for everyone.

    I don't know why Tyson Fury switched up vs Chisora unless it was to carry him 10 rounds. Tyson boxed well enough in the orthodox stance to beat Chisora soundly....don't know if he hurt his hand, had doubts about his ability, or was feeling like a showoff but whatever the case was it was unnecessary for him to do that unless he was truly injured. If a pro boxer that far along has to switch stances in order to void a left hook then that is big trouble.

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